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Old 10-13-2009, 03:28 PM
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Speaking strictly of hauntings I am fascinated by the difference in 'intelligent' versus 'non-intelligent' type haunts.
The first is usually what we think of where something seems capable of interacting with the living but the second is often played out like a scene in a movie over and over again with no real intelligence behind it. I keep thinking of the example of a bride, who on her wedding day was walking down the massive plantation staircase and tripped and broke her neck. She has never been reported to actually acknowledge anyone living yet people keep seeing her image reenacting the walk -and fall.
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Old 10-13-2009, 03:40 PM
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Speaking strictly of hauntings I am fascinated by the difference in 'intelligent' versus 'non-intelligent' type haunts.
The first is usually what we think of where something seems capable of interacting with the living but the second is often played out like a scene in a movie over and over again with no real intelligence behind it. I keep thinking of the example of a bride, who on her wedding day was walking down the massive plantation staircase and tripped and broke her neck. She has never been reported to actually acknowledge anyone living yet people keep seeing her image reenacting the walk -and fall.
Ever play a video game where a character seizes up and continuously performs the same jerky, repetitious action? lol

I think it's quite possible that some deaths were so traumatic that the spirit of the person is in a state of "spiritual shock". They may not even realize that they are dead. They continuously reenact their last moments or a moment of fond memory in an effort to get past it, but the reality is so terrible they essentially rewind and try again, over, and over, and over oblivious to everything around them. I wonder if anyone has ever prayed for these spirits in an effort to help them move on?

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Ever play a video game where a character seizes up and continuously performs the same jerky, repetitious action? lol

I think it's quite possible that some deaths were so traumatic that the spirit of the person is in a state of "spiritual shock". They may not even realize that they are dead. They continuously reinact their last moments or a moment of fond memory in an effort to get past it, but the reality is so terrible they essentially rewind and try again, over, and over, and over oblivious to everything around them. I wonder if anyone has ever prayed for these spirits in an effort to help them move on?
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It's possible. Even the living have traumatic events transpire that psychologically they can't get past and so the re-live the event over and over.
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Kind of... but like a personal hell of re-living the most terrifying day of your life - your last.
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Old 10-13-2009, 11:23 PM
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Kind of... but like a personal hell of re-living the most terrifying day of your life - your last.
Do you think there is actually a self-awareness in these cases, albeit a trapped one? I don't know. There could be, but it really seems like it is a mere echo of what once happened.

I keep thinking of the tri-nature of man -flesh, spirit, and soul. The soul may indeed wake up instantly in either a place called heaven or hell. Obviously the flesh dies and returns to dust, but what about the spirit? Maybe this is what can "hang around" after death being nothing but a shadow of the original person? SOME consciousness, yet not alive?
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Do you think there is actually a self-awareness in these cases, albeit a trapped one? I don't know. There could be, but it really seems like it is a mere echo of what once happened.

I keep thinking of the tri-nature of man -flesh, spirit, and soul. The soul may indeed wake up instantly in either a place called heaven or hell. Obviously the flesh dies and returns to dust, but what about the spirit? Maybe this is what can "hang around" after death being nothing but a shadow of the original person? SOME consciousness, yet not alive?
It's possible, but for some reason in my gut I don't buy the idea of psychic impressions or spiritual echos left at a location. I'd lean more closely to the idea that these are indeed souls that are re-living an event they can't get past. For example, the girl who tripped down the steps on her wedding day. This was perhaps the greatest day of her life, it meant everything to her. The horror of falling, and then experiencing death just before such an occasion may have psychologically shocked her soul into denying that she's dead and a desire to try and "make it happen", only to relive the experience over and over. I imagine there's a limited degree of self awareness, but her entire mind is obsessed, focussed, and fixed on the notion that this still is her wedding day in some how she can avoid her fall and marry her love. I'd say pray aloud, asking God to comfort her and give her the resolution she needs to let go and move on. One might test to see if there's self-awareness by planning a wedding on the day she planned her wedding. If the power goes out or omens of warning with "strange things" happening in the house begin, she most definately is self aware... and very angry now.

But that's just my opinion.

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Nothing can "psychologically" shock a soul. Psychology is the science of the mind, and the mind as associated with psychology ceases to exist at death. The soul, spirit, or "heart" of a person-their essence is what lives on, not the memories as we now associate them.
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Nothing can "psychologically" shock a soul. Psychology is the science of the mind, and the mind as associated with psychology ceases to exist at death. The soul, spirit, or "heart" of a person-their essence is what lives on, not the memories as we now associate them.
Missourimary, I'd care to challenge that notion. Psychology doesn't end at death. The dead still have the entire gamut, emotion, thought, mental pain, sorrow, frustration, personality, etc., etc.

Essentially the dead are just as mentally and emotionally alert as the living. The only difference is that they don't have a physical body. The only psychological issues a soul wouldn't face would be any psychological issues originating from physiological causes such as brain chemistry.

With that being said, I firmly believe that a soul can experience joy, happiness, love, forgiveness, frustration, anger, sorrow, pain, and emotional agony equivalent to that which would make one gnash their teeth. That clearly means that a soul can also suffer the psychological blows that we can the effect us on an emotional level in our personalities. Hence, a soul indeed CAN be shocked, bewildered, and emotionally shattered by events regarding their eternity or events that transpired at their time of death.

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