Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
But don't you find it strange that out of all the Conservative there are 'out there', not one has been able to come up with proof to refute the evidence presented, in spite of what is being claimed?
To me, that's very telling, especially in a world where nothing is hidden anymore...not like it was even 20 years ago.
I'd love to have a reason to get Obama out of office, but repeating suspicions that are voiced by several without anything concrete to back it up won't do anything.
Oh, there is much that can remain hidden, HO. And I don't want to dip into a conspiracy stand here.
I simply want to leave this as Helen, firmly, questioning this and calling it unconstitutional. That is just way too curious to forget about.
It doesn't appear to matter about the proof given - people are not totally buying it - either side - Conservative or Liberal.
And no I don't find it strange as I saw the media go into the tank to get him elected, ACORN falsifying voter registration to get him in, questions about who funded him in college, etc. Just things that are not adding up and never have.
No one listened to all the information concerning Obama BEFORE he was elected. Maybe now that he's taking our country from us someone will come forth. His grandmother just happened to die while he was in Hawaii working out the issue of his birth certificate. The one that really knew. That was rather timely and odd, IMO. Perhaps it was nothing, but then again.....everything about his life is odd.
A good conspiracy theory would be - Why did he and his family wear red on Election Night, when red means blood and revenge? Now, that's a good conspiracy theory for you.
Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Oh, there is much that can remain hidden, HO. And I don't want to dip into a conspiracy stand here.
I simply want to leave this as Helen, firmly, questioning this and calling it unconstitutional. That is just way too curious to forget about.
It doesn't appear to matter about the proof given - people are not totally buying it - either side - Conservative or Liberal.
And no I don't find it strange as I saw the media go into the tank to get him elected, ACORN falsifying voter registration to get him in, questions about who funded him in college, etc. Just things that are not adding up and never have.
No one listened to all the information concerning Obama BEFORE he was elected. Maybe now that he's taking our country from us someone will come forth. His grandmother just happened to die while he was in Hawaii working out the issue of his birth certificate. The one that really knew. That was rather timely and odd, IMO. Perhaps it was nothing, but then again.....everything about his life is odd.
A good conspiracy theory would be - Why did he and his family wear red on Election Night, when red means blood and revenge? Now, that's a good conspiracy theory for you.
I don't think Obama is that powerful to keep something so silly hidden. The current President (or whatever he's called) in Kenya doesn't like Obama, so if he was truly born there, I'd think he would be quite forthcoming in providing documents to prove it.
But I do agree that everything about his life is odd. Being in Illinois, there's a lot more to the story than the media cares to clue in everyone else about.
Blagojevich is facing a hefty prison sentence soon. He won't be going alone, I can assure you of that.
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Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Oh, there is much that can remain hidden, HO. And I don't want to dip into a conspiracy stand here.
I simply want to leave this as Helen, firmly, questioning this and calling it unconstitutional. That is just way too curious to forget about.
It doesn't appear to matter about the proof given - people are not totally buying it - either side - Conservative or Liberal.
And no I don't find it strange as I saw the media go into the tank to get him elected, ACORN falsifying voter registration to get him in, questions about who funded him in college, etc. Just things that are not adding up and never have.
No one listened to all the information concerning Obama BEFORE he was elected. Maybe now that he's taking our country from us someone will come forth. His grandmother just happened to die while he was in Hawaii working out the issue of his birth certificate. The one that really knew. That was rather timely and odd, IMO. Perhaps it was nothing, but then again.....everything about his life is odd.
A good conspiracy theory would be - Why did he and his family wear red on Election Night, when red means blood and revenge? Now, that's a good conspiracy theory for you.
Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
I don't think Obama is that powerful to keep something so silly hidden. The current President (or whatever he's called) in Kenya doesn't like Obama, so if he was truly born there, I'd think he would be quite forthcoming in providing documents to prove it.
But I do agree that everything about his life is odd. Being in Illinois, there's a lot more to the story than the media cares to clue in everyone else about.
Blagojevich is facing a hefty prison sentence soon. He won't be going alone, I can assure you of that.
doesn't the state prison have a wing for just officials?
Kerner walker and Ryan?
Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
I don't think Obama is that powerful to keep something so silly hidden. The current President (or whatever he's called) in Kenya doesn't like Obama, so if he was truly born there, I'd think he would be quite forthcoming in providing documents to prove it.
But I do agree that everything about his life is odd. Being in Illinois, there's a lot more to the story than the media cares to clue in everyone else about.
Blagojevich is facing a hefty prison sentence soon. He won't be going alone, I can assure you of that.
I don't think the current president of Kenyan is of the Luo tribe that Obama is a part of as was his father or grandfather. I think the current President is of the Party of National Unity and Obama's people would be the Orange Democratic Movement. They share power, but have their differences.
Anyway, bottom line - his life is odd - so, I don't think the issue is going to go away and it is not enough for an official to say - "It's a real certificate." It doesn't, apparently, look like enough.
So, I don't know where this is going or if it will end, but we may not need to worry about it. As the ratings plunge, he will be out by 2012. God save the USA!
Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't think the current president of Kenyan is of the Luo tribe that Obama is a part of as was his father or grandfather. I think the current President is of the Party of National Unity and Obama's people would be the Orange Democratic Movement. They share power, but have their differences.
Anyway, bottom line - his life is odd - so, I don't think the issue is going to go away and it is not enough for an official to say - "It's a real certificate." It doesn't, apparently, look like enough.
So, I don't know where this is going or if it will end, but we may not need to worry about it. As the ratings plunge, he will be out by 2012. God save the USA!
I think that is the real crux of this discussion. No matter how often it is verified, by officials and with documents, birthers aren't going to believe it. That is their right, however illogical it might seem to the majority.
Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Twisp
I think that is the real crux of this discussion. No matter how often it is verified, by officials and with documents, birthers aren't going to believe it. That is their right, however illogical it might seem to the majority.
It only seems illogical to some. To others - with his past associations and history - it appears to be a plausible argument.
Helen wants to know and I want to know why she wants to know!! LOL!
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