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Old 07-08-2009, 12:00 PM
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What I want to know is how many people have prayed on here for an outcome in a certain situation to come out right and it came out wrong not the way you have prayed then I will bring this up why pray when God already knows the outcome I don't think we are strong enough to change his thoughts on the outcome of things.....
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Thank you timmy. I found my self in every question you asked, but I have come to different conclusions. One who claims to be a person of faith that has not asked those same questions is a victim of fear rather than faith (IMO) - they are afraid to ask the questions for fear that the answers will destroy their faith. I asked the questions and the answers I found reinforced my faith.

I am sorry that your questioning lead you to a different outcome, but hey; the day isn't over and perhaps, just perhaps, there will be a day when you say, "Wow! I didn't know that."

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Old 07-08-2009, 12:15 PM
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What I want to know is how many people have prayed on here for an outcome in a certain situation to come out right and it came out wrong not the way you have prayed then I will bring this up why pray when God already knows the outcome I don't think we are strong enough to change his thoughts on the outcome of things.....
Prayer is about a lot more than answers. Prayer is about us and our faith. If you were to look-up all the passages on faith, there is a common thread, not our need, US! There are scores of examples where God changes his mind (Hezekiah) or where he was moved with compassion (woman with the issue). Prayer changes things, but more importantly, prayers changes us.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:37 PM
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Thank you timmy. I found my self in every question you asked, but I have come to different conclusions. One who claims to be a person of faith that has not asked those same questions is a victim of fear rather than faith (IMO) - they are afraid to ask the questions for fear that the answers will destroy their faith. I asked the questions and the answers I found reinforced my faith.
I can certainly understand that different people come to different conclusions, even when presented with nearly the same data. Not sure why, but that's just the way it is, I guess.

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I am sorry that your questioning lead you to a different outcome, but hey; the day isn't over and perhaps, just perhaps, there will be a day when you say, "Wow! I didn't know that."

Be Blessed friend.
I could say the analogous thing to you, BTW: I am sorry that you came to a different conclusion, and maybe you will see the light some day!
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Re: AFF Press Conference: Timmy Talks

I have a question for you, and I promise that I don't mean it in a snotty way. I am genuinely curious.

Since these are your beliefs, why do you spend so much time on this forum? If you're not even sure there is a God, and you definitely believe that he pays no attention to us at all... why does this forum even hold your interest?

Like I said, just curious.
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Old 07-08-2009, 02:18 PM
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I have a question for you, and I promise that I don't mean it in a snotty way. I am genuinely curious.

Since these are your beliefs, why do you spend so much time on this forum? If you're not even sure there is a God, and you definitely believe that he pays no attention to us at all... why does this forum even hold your interest?

Like I said, just curious.
An excellent question! Thanks for asking. The answer is very simple:

I have a burden for the "lost".

But that's only half-joking (if that). I really do believe that some of the beliefs you guys adhere to are harmful. You would do well at least to consider this, IMO. A second reason:

I enjoy prompting people to think. To defend their ideas. To exercise 1 Peter 3:15, "... be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you ...". I think a lot of Christians are too complacent in "managing" what they believe. They believe what they are told to believe, without giving much attention to why. There's a lot of implied "because I said so" reasons, and it's been that way for decades. Centuries, actually.
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Additional sections that could have gone into my "statement" are popping into mind. Maybe there will be an addendum.
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Hey friend, do you believe Jesus was/is who he said he is.
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Hey friend, do you believe Jesus was/is who he said he is.
Shawn, that is the crux of the whole Deist matter right there.
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Hey friend, do you believe Jesus was/is who he said he is.
I'm agnostic (don't know, don't believe I can know) about that, leaning toward skeptical. I am also somewhat skeptical that all the recorded sayings of Jesus are accurate. There could have been additions and edits after the fact.
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