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Old 05-05-2009, 03:54 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

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I don't know anyone like that.
I have heard some men proclaim it on other (more conservative) message boards.
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

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I have heard some men proclaim it on other (more conservative) message boards.
I've heard it too but hesitated to say anything until a man brought it up.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:29 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

Too much! A topic designed only to inflame and to divide.

First, can women teach? God does use back-up plans. Even the entire Levitical Priesthood was a"fall-back plan".

In the writings of Paul we can see where he sometimes puts his own spin on things. The often used reference of I Tim 2:11-15 is an excellent example of this writing/instruction style (a referenced often used but seldom actually read and even less understood) rests in 1 Tim 2:12.

Second, there is a difference between counseling, teaching, providing guidance and providing spiritual authority over another person. Women have been exercising these functions over males sense the birth of Cain.

Should a women have and exercise spiritual authority over men? I suggest looking at God's description and plan for marriage. The church is to be a marriage relationship. Does the church actually reflect God's original intent? Not likely!

Solution: Before removing women from leadership roles that God has called, ordained, and established (fruit inspectors please step forward), let's start by cleaning out the the false teachers, prophets, and other wolves who are eating the saints of God alive! If it were not for the wife of Moses taking authority over her household, and even over Moses himself, he would never have lived to make it back to Egypt to lead God's people out of bondage. While on the road to Egypt, God sent an angel to kill him.

Our Lord is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow, and of the things about our God that never changes, is that He is always doing things differently than He has in the past.

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Old 05-05-2009, 05:41 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

agreed...
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

As I pointed out before the verses in question don't prevent a woman from speaking in church at all. However I would not be ok with a woman pastor. I don't think that was God's design. However if not enough men step up then I can see God calling women.

A person can teach and not be a Pastor
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

As a lady I feel unconfortable teaching men but I have done it for there was a need...
I have never felt I was Godīs first choice and certainly not the best choice for Brazil...but when HE called I came running...
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As a lady I feel unconfortable teaching men but I have done it for there was a need...
I have never felt I was Godīs first choice and certainly not the best choice for Brazil...but when HE called I came running...
My honest opinion is...women need to be sensitive to how God created men...yes even to the male ego, when teaching. Women can be teachers but they have to understand guys.

There was a thread here on a study of how there are so few men in the church but more women. It basically said the church was too feminine for men. It was geared to women and not men emotionally speaking.

I think there is some truth to that.
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations

What is in the heart of a man to prohibit any servant of God of serving? Thank God for my grandmother, I and all of my six brothers (and four sisters) are believers of the gospel and just about any one of the can and will preach give half an opportunity.

Let's argue about something worth arguing, this is a tired and worn out argument.

We live in the new covenant, where there is no difference in the sight of the Lord of male or female. Matter of fact He is neither male or female He is Spirit.

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Solution: Before removing women from leadership roles that God has called, ordained, and established (fruit inspectors please step forward), let's start by cleaning out the the false teachers, prophets, and other wolves who are eating the saints of God alive!
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My honest opinion is...women need to be sensitive to how God created men...yes even to the male ego, when teaching. Women can be teachers but they have to understand guys.

There was a thread here on a study of how there are so few men in the church but more women. It basically said the church was too feminine for men. It was geared to women and not men emotionally speaking.

I think there is some truth to that.
yep. That is what the "Why Men Hate Church" book is about too. I just loaned my copy to a local Baptist pastor.
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