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Old 12-01-2008, 01:19 PM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes

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Ferd,

Not trying to stir the pot, but in your experience have you attended churches that leaves the attendance up to you? They don't encourage everyone to be at every service?
well, the pastors I have announced Wed. night service at the Sunday service(s)... for sure.


I have not had a pastor who stated that you would go to hell for missing a wed. night service.

I have family who are baptist and they have wed. night services. It would be fair to say that my pastors have suggested that being at every service is a good thing and have encurraged that kind of participation. It would not be fair to suggest that they put undo pressure on people to be at church every time the doors were open.

There is a difference between "this would be good" and "you are risking eternal damnation".

I have heard the former but never the later.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:20 PM
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Thank you.
I think a fairer statement would be to say something like "I think the problem in some UPC churches is..."

I think that's a statement most if not all of us could agree with.

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That said, I do agree there are probably some Apostolic churches (not just UPC) that overdo it somewhat.

But as for my own experience, the church I attend has Sunday School, Sunday morning service, and midweek Bible Study. I don't think that's overdoing it at all, and I don't think it's a burden for me to be expected to attend all three of those each week if at all possible. So I guess I've been pretty fortunate in that they allow us a good balance of church life and family life.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:22 PM
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The bolded red part sentence should be post of the day!

And, I agree with you, I haven't had any real bad experiences with the UPC, and I defend the UPC for the most part - but I also realize that some HAVE had bad experiences, and I don't want to condescend to them when they are sharing those things.

At the end of the day, a thread like this should encourage those who have had good experiences, like us, to testify to those who haven't had such good experiences and give them hope that there are some good people in the organization.

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Old 12-01-2008, 01:23 PM
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Thank you.
I think a fairer statement would be to say something like "I think the problem in some UPC churches is..."

I think that's a statement most if not all of us could agree with.

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That said, I do agree there are probably some Apostolic churches (not just UPC) that overdo it somewhat.

But as for my own experience, the church I attend has Sunday School, Sunday morning service, and midweek Bible Study. I don't think that's overdoing it at all, and I don't think it's a burden for me to be expected to attend all three of those each week if at all possible. So I guess I've been pretty fortunate in that they allow us a good balance of church life and family life.
we have 2 services a week. it certainly isnt asking too much to have 2 services and incurage folk to attend both.

my family has missed tons of church in the last 6 months with all the issues we have gone thru with Jack. We have been in the hospital, or just getting home from the hospital or I have worked late due to all the work I missed because of being at the hospital and a dozen other reasons related to our situatuation with Jack.

My pastor has been very kind to us and never questioned our commitment to the church or to God.

now that things are settling down, we are able to be at church more.
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I guess we could require everyone to start posting IMO before everything they say about UPC.
IMO, I've never been in the UPC.
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IMO, I've never been in the UPC.


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Sometimes, I think some of you guys are lawyers.
I'm not a lawyer.

But sometimes, I think some folks just come by and make unnecessary and unproductive comments.

(IMO!!)
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Maybe its just me... but I'll never understand why people who are no longer UPC feel the need to go on internet forums and tell us the things they think are wrong with the UPC.
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I guess we could require everyone to start posting IMO before everything they say about UPC.
Better yet.... "IMO the UPC churches that I experienced...."

To fully make it clear that you are speaking both your opinion, and only in reference to the churches you actually attended
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I'm not a lawyer.

But sometimes, I think some folks just come by and make unnecessary and unproductive comments.

(IMO!!)
hahaha

Yes, quibling over how someone uses their 1st amendment right while they implicate your organization's ruling class is quite productive.
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Old 12-01-2008, 01:59 PM
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Re: One of the Biggest Mistakes

Bitterness only eats away at the vessel it's in... not other vessels.

I'm convinced that some folks on AFF seem to have forgotten that.
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