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Old 11-13-2008, 04:34 PM
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Re: I thought They were one???

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You misunderstood what I said. I never said the Spirit of the Father is a different one than the Holy Ghost.

Unfortunately what you say here for theology is very vague. It does not mean anything. It does not explain how God can be Father and Son or how Father and Son are distinct.

As far as one, you seem to be saying then that God is one person that has three roles. See Trinitarians say "Father, Son and Spirit are one".

You asked a specific question based on "how can this be, if they are one"...that shows a lack of understanding of theology. Not trying to be insulting or anything but I find many OPs and Trinitarians really don't know theology. They know sound bites and repeat them but don't really understand the theology that spawned those sound bites
How would you say it differently?
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:35 PM
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Re: I thought They were one???

How about something I heard a very young person say. You can deny something or argue something you havent seen(God, Jesus) but if you have received the Holy Ghost with speaking in tongues then you are arguing or denying something you have experienced and others have witnessed.
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:40 PM
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From being one WHAT?

You can't separate Father, Son and Spirit.

Father is Spirit. Spirit is HOW Father exists in His Deity.

Son is Spirit and Flesh. Spirit is the Divine nature of the Father ontologically united with the Human nature.

The Son is for all intents and purposes, fully human. He has a human nature. In the incarnation the Son empties Himself of Deity, not that he stops being God but that means he "puts aside" his diety temporarily for use. He does not use it so he can truly be that humbled human servant Paul talks of.
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How would you say it differently?
I would say, as I said. God is one personal Being who was incarnate as the Son. The Father is God transcendent, Divine Nature only. The Son is that same Deity but with a Human nature. Thus the Father and Son are different
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Old 11-13-2008, 04:43 PM
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Yoiu may blaspheme the SON of Man and they did saying He was born of fornication-calling him a winebibber etc.- however if they spoke against the Power and Spirit of the Holy Ghost operating through him like saying He cast out devils by the power of the devil it was unforgiveable. Thus they could speak against His humanity but NOT His divinity.
Exactly. Humanity is humanity, whether God is manifest in it or not. It's all for the same reason that flesh cannot glory in itself.
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