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Old 11-04-2008, 08:46 AM
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He is a diplomat and a gentleman but in his heart of hearts he has to be discouraged and his wife even worse. The church they have supported for years is going to undergo a change that I doubt if these folks wind up staying. Elder Hardwick was PCI to the core but his personal experience and history kept somewhat the Pentecostal color in the church but with time.....and now this. The slippery slope that is mocked here on the forum is plaining seen here if you have eyes and ears.


We all knew that was coming. Dan Scott? come on.
Even Pianoman knew what was coming he was just holding out hope.

PM, what are you going to do? stay or leave? what will be the last straw for you?
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:06 AM
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We all knew that was coming. Dan Scott? come on.
Even Pianoman knew what was coming he was just holding out hope.

PM, what are you going to do? stay or leave? what will be the last straw for you?
I'm still holding out hope!

Since becoming senior pastor, Dan Scott has made a few minor changes only. The changes so far are mostly good and needed. The change that bothers me the most is the baptisms being done during congregational singing to save time. You can't hear how they are baptizing. I trust the pastors doing the baptisms, and I know that they are baptizing in Jesus name. My problem will increase one day when someone is baptizing that I don't know or trust!

Christ Church has never made a big deal out of the oneness doctrine like many smaller churches do. The pastors are very careful not to offend visitors or some attendees.

Since I know Bro. Hardwick's and Bro. Scott's oneness background, I understand what they are really saying when they preach.

A few years ago, I was late arriving at church with my family and couldn't find a decent parking place. I told Mrs. Steinway that Bro. Hardwick needed to preach Acts 2:38 and standards really HARD this Sunday to clear up a few parking spaces!

I am teetering on the edge, and I suspect that I might not be around Christ Church if it changes too much in the future.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:10 AM
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It sounded more in line with oneness thinking. I agree with his thoughts on there.
If I wrote an article on the godhead and people were having to speculate on what I thought, and talking about what "slant" the article had, I would be ashamed.

I try to write and speak straight, not "slant" things this way or that.

Unbelievable.
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I'm still holding out hope!

Since becoming senior pastor, Dan Scott has made a few minor changes only. The changes so far are mostly good and needed. The change that bothers me the most is the baptisms being done during congregational singing to save time. You can't hear how they are baptizing. I trust the pastors doing the baptisms, and I know that they are baptizing in Jesus name. My problem will increase one day when someone is baptizing that I don't know or trust!

Christ Church has never made a big deal out of the oneness doctrine like many smaller churches do. The pastors are very careful not to offend visitors or some attendees.

Since I know Bro. Hardwick's and Bro. Scott's oneness background, I understand what they are really saying when they preach.

A few years ago, I was late arriving at church with my family and couldn't find a decent parking place. I told Mrs. Steinway that Bro. Hardwick needed to preach Acts 2:38 and standards really HARD this Sunday to clear up a few parking spaces!

I am teetering on the edge, and I suspect that I might not be around Christ Church if it changes too much in the future.

Where would you go? what are your options?

Do you really consider Christ Church a true Pentecostal church?
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:13 AM
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I doubt if anyone but a few old timers remembers this, but way back on NFCF, we discussed Dan Scott and the probablility that he would be pastor of Christ Church some day.

Some of us then tried to tell the optimists that when Dan Scott got firmly in the saddle, his fascination with things Anglican, which he was repressing at the time, would crop back out.

It looks like we were right.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:14 AM
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I'm still holding out hope!

Since becoming senior pastor, Dan Scott has made a few minor changes only. The changes so far are mostly good and needed. The change that bothers me the most is the baptisms being done during congregational singing to save time. You can't hear how they are baptizing. I trust the pastors doing the baptisms, and I know that they are baptizing in Jesus name. My problem will increase one day when someone is baptizing that I don't know or trust!

Christ Church has never made a big deal out of the oneness doctrine like many smaller churches do. The pastors are very careful not to offend visitors or some attendees.

Since I know Bro. Hardwick's and Bro. Scott's oneness background, I understand what they are really saying when they preach.

A few years ago, I was late arriving at church with my family and couldn't find a decent parking place. I told Mrs. Steinway that Bro. Hardwick needed to preach Acts 2:38 and standards really HARD this Sunday to clear up a few parking spaces!

I am teetering on the edge, and I suspect that I might not be around Christ Church if it changes too much in the future.
You are on a slippery slope...ha
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Where would you go? what are your options?

Do you really consider Christ Church a true Pentecostal church?
A lot of Pentecostals have an aversion to success, if a church becomes successful in reaching folks then it is time to tear it down. Gotta free up those parking spots, the reality is that most OP leaders are not equipped to grow a large church. So the response is to keep it in their comfort zone, meaning small and controlled.
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:16 AM
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If I wrote an article on the godhead and people were having to speculate on what I thought, and talking about what "slant" the article had, I would be ashamed.

I try to write and speak straight, not "slant" things this way or that.

Unbelievable.

That's true. I like it black or white let the chips fall.

you never hear of Trinitarians writing in code so not to offend the
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:17 AM
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A lot of Pentecostals have an aversion to success, if a church becomes successful in reaching folks then it is time to tear it down. Gotta free up those parking spots, the reality is that most OP leaders are not equipped to grow a large church. So the response is to keep it in their comfort zone, meaning small and controlled.


I don't buy that. an aversion to success? where in the world do you get that idea?? I know MANY very successful Pentecostal churches of all stripes
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:29 AM
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I'm still holding out hope!

Since becoming senior pastor, Dan Scott has made a few minor changes only. The changes so far are mostly good and needed. The change that bothers me the most is the baptisms being done during congregational singing to save time. You can't hear how they are baptizing. I trust the pastors doing the baptisms, and I know that they are baptizing in Jesus name. My problem will increase one day when someone is baptizing that I don't know or trust!

Christ Church has never made a big deal out of the oneness doctrine like many smaller churches do. The pastors are very careful not to offend visitors or some attendees.

Since I know Bro. Hardwick's and Bro. Scott's oneness background, I understand what they are really saying when they preach.

A few years ago, I was late arriving at church with my family and couldn't find a decent parking place. I told Mrs. Steinway that Bro. Hardwick needed to preach Acts 2:38 and standards really HARD this Sunday to clear up a few parking spaces!

I am teetering on the edge, and I suspect that I might not be around Christ Church if it changes too much in the future.
Both Steinway and CC 1 are straight up guys we agree on little but they have always been honest.
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