Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
Actually, I agree with you, TS. You will find that I very seldom ever discuss politics on this forum. It's a no win situation.
The fact of the matter is that all the candidates are politicians, and most of them have this wonderful innocence and naivete about how much power they are really going to have to change things. So, I'm quite sure that they truly mean what they say, and their promises are not empty refrain, at least in their minds.
But, when they get in office, and discover the morass of red tape that they have to plod thru, and the ridiculous amount of adversity that exists within Washington, and the PACs, et al, they eventually succumb and the political whitewater sweeps them away, just like their predecessors.
I mean, what power does one man (or woman) really have to force a corporation to keep jobs in the US? What power does a president really have to force the oil companies to lower gas prices?
At the end of the day, we're electing a figurehead, plain and simple. There are many other groups, Congress and Senate being the chiefs, who will actually run the country.
The job of president is one that I would run from like a plague.
Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
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Originally Posted by MikeinAR
I think the American people deserve to see the two men who are asking to be President of the U.S. keep their commitment and debate the issues in public.
John McCain or Barack Obama aren't financial guru's in the Senate. Their absence isn't going to stifle the bailout plan. They don't sit on the Senate banking committee and I'm sure there being kept informed on the in's and out's of the bailout plan.
It's very important that the American people have a chance to size up both men on the same stage together and make an informed decision in November.
what would be wrong with waiting until monday to debate?
beyond that these two guys are the leaders of their parties.
McCain: Lets get something done
Obama: Call me if you need me.
once again, I like McCains approach.
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Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
The incoming president will inherit one of the oldest Supreme courts (6 of the judges will be nearly 70 when he takes office) so, if he serves an 8 year term, he may have more sway in the appointments than normal.
However, the judges have the option to defer to the president, so what really matters is that you seat fair, impartial and non-partisan justices to keep the jurisprudential balance. Do those candidates exist in the US?
We will see. So far, the only two names that have really made waves are Roberts and Alito, and McCain and Obama were pretty well opposed on them.
It will be interesting to see.
But, on other matters, it seems that the President is a mere figurehead at this point in our nation's history.
I'm just saying that although I know it has been explained away here, I am not impressed by the overwhelmingly Republican appointed SCOTUS we have now.
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Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
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Originally Posted by Ferd
what would be wrong with waiting until monday to debate?
beyond that these two guys are the leaders of their parties.
McCain: Lets get something done
Obama: Call me if you need me.
once again, I like McCains approach.
Ferd, my point is that if it were Obama saying he didn't want to debate and wanted to rush to Washington to fix this mess and McCain was saying that it was important to keep this debate, many people here would not be saying the same thing. I think that if many people were to step back and be honest they would admit that that is true.
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Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
The incoming president will inherit one of the oldest Supreme courts (6 of the judges will be nearly 70 when he takes office) so, if he serves an 8 year term, he may have more sway in the appointments than normal.
However, the judges have the option to defer to the president, so what really matters is that you seat fair, impartial and non-partisan justices to keep the jurisprudential balance. Do those candidates exist in the US?
We will see. So far, the only two names that have really made waves are Roberts and Alito, and McCain and Obama were pretty well opposed on them.
It will be interesting to see.
But, on other matters, it seems that the President is a mere figurehead at this point in our nation's history.
Michael,
McCain was never against Roberts. He said that Alito wore is Conservatism on his sleeve and may be against him for that.
I think McCain has been a very misunderstood person in a lot of ways, JMO.
Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
From the McCain campaign ... When will it be a good time to talk about the issues facing this nation ...
How many votes has he missed since?
This would be a nice time to tell the nation where you stand?
Did this just happen THIS WEEK???
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MCCAIN: America this week faces an historic crisis in our financial system. We must pass legislation to address this crisis. If we do not, credit will dry up, with devastating consequences for our economy. People will no longer be able to buy homes and their life savings will be at stake. Businesses will not have enough money to pay their employees. If we do not act, ever corner of our country will be impacted. We cannot allow this to happen.
Last Friday, I laid out my proposal and I have since discussed my priorities and concerns with the bill the Administration has put forward. Senator Obama has expressed his priorities and concerns.This morning, I met with a group of economic advisers to talk about the proposal on the table and the steps that we should take going forward.I have also spoken with members of Congress to hear their perspective.
It has become clear that no consensus has developed to support the Administration' proposal. I do not believe that the plan on the table will pass as it currently stands, and we are running out of time.
Tomorrow morning, I will suspend my campaign and return to Washington after speaking at the Clinton Global Initiative. I have spoken to Senator Obama and informed him of my decision and have asked him to join me.
I am calling on the President to convene a meeting with the leadership from both houses of Congress, including Senator Obama and myself. It is time for both parties to come together to solve this problem.
We must meet as Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, and we must meet until this crisis is resolved.I am directing my campaign to work with the Obama campaign and the commission on presidential debates to delay Friday night's debate until we have taken action to address this crisis.
I am confident that before the markets open on Monday we can achieve consensus on legislation that will stabilize our financial markets, protect taxpayers and homeowners, and earn the confidence of the American people. All we must do to achieve this is temporarily set politics aside, and I am committed to doing so.
Following September 11th, our national leaders came together at a time of crisis. We must show that kind of patriotism now. Americans across our country lament the fact that partisan divisions in Washington have prevented us from addressing our national challenges. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country.
Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
In my mind, the presidency is akin to being an NFL coach.
The coaches can't actually play, but when the players don't do well, who gets blamed? THE COACH!
The commentators say stuff like, "If they don't start winning, Coach's job is on the line. HE has to figure out a way to make them win, blah blah blah".
But, when a player makes a dazzling 98 yard kickoff return for a touchdown, does the coach get credit? No way!
The announcers say stuff like, "Man, that guy is incredible, I've never seen moves like that, he may be the greatest kickoff returner in the history of the game", blah blah blah.
No announcer says, "Man, that coach really taught that kid how to run a kickoff back!".
My point is, the president gets blamed for everything that goes wrong, all the way down to the Hurricane Katrina disaster! But, a month ago, or so, when Gustav came along, and the city was much more prepared, did Bush get credit for that? NO WAY!
It was the new governor, and the new FEMA director, etc. And, when the Republican convention delayed it's start because of Gustav, they're accused of pandering and grandstanding!
Now, why in the world would anyone want that job? It's beyond me!
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Re: McCain once again is doing the honorable thing
Dan, Sounds good to me and I think McCain is right!
I especially like this:
"Following September 11th, our national leaders came together at a time of crisis. We must show that kind of patriotism now. Americans across our country lament the fact that partisan divisions in Washington have prevented us from addressing our national challenges. Now is our chance to come together to prove that Washington is once again capable of leading this country. "
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