Do you have HALF A BRAIN CELL?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I define "Apostolica" as all those who are affiliated with or affectionate with an Apostolic church and/or its' doctrine. Of course, you can define Apostolic doctrine, and then exclude anyone who disagrees with that doctrine as Apostolic, defining "Apostolica" as only those who agree with and/or adhere to said doctrine, and defining all others as only folks who "hang out with Apostolics." Thus, under such a definition, the AFF would probably NOT represent Apostolica as a whole.

Personally, I loosely define Apostolic doctrine as anyone who believes in one God, who follows Peter's instructions for salvation, who believe in being filled with the Holy Ghost, initially evidenced by speaking in tongues, and further evidenced by the fruit of the spirit, and those who follow New Testament teachings, e.g., the "Apostles' doctrine."

As far as I know, the above definition encompasses the majority of this forum, hence my vote of "Yes."

Thanks for posting. I never comment on this subject. It's too emotionally involved.

[MissBrattified]

I understand.

And, of course, my posted "definition" is still my personal definition--what I've worked out in my own head--and I'm sure it differs from the 100 other definitions of what comprises a true Apostolic. *sigh* and *lol*

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You are so nosey!!!!

Seriously, when God leads you into truth and you are living in His will, I think it's wrong for people to say, "You should challenge your beliefs!"

Why would we do that, when we are being led of God? It just doesn't make sense to me. If He wanted me to change, He would tell me. I don't have to argue with people to find direction in my life.

Just musing, Abigail!

I concur. And jokes aside--I consider you to be a very good example of an Apostolic Woman. I wouldn't want to cast aspersions on that.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I understand.

And, of course, my posted "definition" is still my personal definition--what I've worked out in my own head--and I'm sure it differs from the 100 other definitions of what comprises a true Apostolic. *sigh* and *lol*







I concur. And jokes aside--I consider you to be a very good example of an Apostolic Woman. I wouldn't want to cast aspersions on that.

Well, thank you, Abigail. I feel the same about you!

Now,





























pull out those skeletons in the closet!

[TRFrance]

No disrespect to my fellow posters, but I don't believe for one minute that the makeup of this forum really respresents the Apostolic movement in general.

Besides the conservatives and moderates among us, there is a pretty significant number of liberal Apostolics, ex-Apostolics, skeptics, etc that make up the AFF "family".

I think as a whole this board is much more liberal than the Oneneness Pentecostal movement as a whole. (And I say this not as a condemnation necessarily, but just as a simple observation.)

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

No disrespect to my fellow posters, but I don't believe for one minute that the makeup of this forum really respresents the Apostolic movement in general.

Besides the conservatives and moderates among us, there is a pretty significant number of liberal Apostolics, ex-Apostolics, skeptics, etc that make up the AFF "family".

I think as a whole this board is much more liberal than the Oneness Pentecostal movement as a whole. (And I say this not as a condemnation necessarily, but just as a simple observation.)

To clarify, which organizations and groups would you include in the "Oneness Pentecostal movement as a whole?"

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I voted yes, and my reasons would be about equivalent with three of Rhoni's points. (btw, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with the other 7 points...I just think the ones above are the most relevant.)

There are a LOT of people within the conservative ranks who privately agree with some of the most liberal factions of the AFF. For that reason, I think the AFF does represent Apostolica as a whole, if not in practice, at least in personal ideology.

In spite of my "yes" vote, I do believe I have more than half a brain cell. (Perhaps only three-quarters....)

This forum, IMO, is more representative of Apostolica as a whole, than the controlled atmosphere of "Everyone'sApostolic." (I canNOT write it without an apostrophe, Renda. How could they do that? )

Originally Posted by AmericanAngel

I got a great laught first thing this morning! Thanks ppls!

This forum is abolutly Apoo-stall-tic!!!
I feel very much at home here....home away from home...church away from church...

As for half a brain cell...I have lots of halves of brains cells!
Now if they could all work in unity and let my body function smoothly...

Glad I could make someone's day today

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

No disrespect to my fellow posters, but I don't believe for one minute that the makeup of this forum really respresents the Apostolic movement in general.

Besides the conservatives and moderates among us, there is a pretty significant number of liberal Apostolics, ex-Apostolics, skeptics, etc that make up the AFF "family".

I think as a whole this board is much more liberal than the Oneneness Pentecostal movement as a whole. (And I say this not as a condemnation necessarily, but just as a simple observation.)

LOL...are you talking about the whole or only UPCI? Because that is a very small percentage

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

No disrespect to my fellow posters, but I don't believe for one minute that the makeup of this forum really respresents the Apostolic movement in general.

Besides the conservatives and moderates among us, there is a pretty significant number of liberal Apostolics, ex-Apostolics, skeptics, etc that make up the AFF "family".

I think as a whole this board is much more liberal than the Oneneness Pentecostal movement as a whole. (And I say this not as a condemnation necessarily, but just as a simple observation.)

At the risk of starting a firestorm, I would say that AFF does NOT represent what Apostolics profess publicly, lol.

I know several Apostolics who represent the company line publicly, but have far different viewpoints privately. Not saying they are lying, they are just simply silent on certain issues in public forums, and a bit more vocal in private.

However, overall, I do think AFF represents Apostolica, because behind the scenes, there are all types of folks in the Apostolic movement with all kinds of viewpoints.

The internet just helps us to be more honest, sometimes.........

Now, let the flogging begin!

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

At the risk of starting a firestorm, I would say that AFF does NOT represent what Apostolics profess publicly, lol.

I know several Apostolics who represent the company line publicly, but have far different viewpoints privately. Not saying they are lying, they are just simply silent on certain issues in public forums, and a bit more vocal in private.

However, overall, I do think AFF represents Apostolica, because behind the scenes, there are all types of folks in the Apostolic movement with all kinds of viewpoints.

The internet just helps us to be more honest, sometimes.........

Now, let the flogging begin!

I agree with this post.
I know a lot of people who fit in this post.

I do not know what guidlines our fellow poster thinks we have to believe to be Apostolic...however times change and I know lots of people that see things different than they did 20 years ago...perhaps taking a pill...going to Disney...worship leaders instead of song leaders...we all change...

christmas no christmas and visa versa...

no open toe shoes...and all kinds of things...

I remember growing up and some churches had their rules right on the board as you came in the church...

We knew little about grace back in those days but most of us have needed it and we learned a lot about Grace...

Things like this does not make us less or more Apostolic...I personally don´t care for the word Apostolic and the way it is understood in Brazil however I do know what it means in the American culture. In that culture I would be considered Apostolic to the core...

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

At the risk of starting a firestorm, I would say that AFF does NOT represent what Apostolics profess publicly, lol.

I know several Apostolics who represent the company line publicly, but have far different viewpoints privately. Not saying they are lying, they are just simply silent on certain issues in public forums, and a bit more vocal in private.

However, overall, I do think AFF represents Apostolica, because behind the scenes, there are all types of folks in the Apostolic movement with all kinds of viewpoints.

The internet just helps us to be more honest, sometimes.........

Now, let the flogging begin!

Flogging for speaking truth ?????.....




all the time.

Good post, Mike.