I have an engineer working for me who is from Newfoundland. I asked him about the term, and he said that it was an insult, but nowhere NEAR the "n" word. He likened it to calling Southern people "rednecks", but when he read the responses here by a couple of folks, he said, "They are flying off the handle. They're making way more of this than a French person would".
That's rather amusing.
Newfoundland and labrador has a total population of over 500,000, and a French population that is under 2000. That's less than .5% French. Why don't you ask your expert if he has ever actually met a French person.
In my part of the continent, Frog is a derogatory term.
(but only if you're French)
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I am not Fench, but I find the use of the term "Frogs" tasteless and offensive.
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I have to assume that you're completely ignorant in your use of the term "frog". You should consider your words and their meaning before you hit the keyboard. This is definitely a derogatory term - especially in the context you used it.
It blows my mind how christians/pentecostals/apostolics can open their mouths to say things, or pick up a pen to write something, or hit the keys on a computer keyboard without engaging their brain AND heart about what they're communicating! Doesn't anyone follow WWJD - What Would Jesus Do/Say/Write...???? Or maybe their Jesus is a rude, uncouth, racist who cares about no one else except themselves and their "type"!
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I am neither French or non white, but the n word and the frog word are equally offensive to me,I am appalled that cc1 used this term.I feel that derogatory terms are not needed to score a point.
Only American arrogance would allow this thread to continue titled as it is. To equate "Frog" to "redneck" or "hillbilly" is to show a complete ignorance of the French culture. If there is an equivalent word, the "N' word is it. As an English speaking person that has spent a lifetime rubbing shoulders with French people, I would use one word as quickly as the other, in other words, not at all.
Newfoundland and labrador has a total population of over 500,000, and a French population that is under 2000. That's less than .5% French. Why don't you ask your expert if he has ever actually met a French person.
He has.
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I have to say that I am with Maple on this one. If the word is legitimately used by many as a derogatory term, and our use hear is totally unecessary and gratuitous...it's probably not worth using. I'm not one to say that you have to be politically correct all the time, but at the same time I don't see the point of being politically incorrect just for the sake of doing it.
My opinion is that we should change it so that we do not offend anyone unnecessarily. Once again as a general rule, when I find out that a term is used by a lot of people as a derogatory term I tend to not use it.
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CC1 is a great guy, but the title he put on this thread is classless, tasteless, and ignorant. (Deacon's use of "Frenchie" isn't much better.)
On this side of the border, the epithet that he used is about as acceptable as the "N" word is on your side.
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I have an engineer working for me who is from Newfoundland. I asked him about the term, and he said that it was an insult, but nowhere NEAR the "n" word. He likened it to calling Southern people "rednecks", but when he read the responses here by a couple of folks, he said, "They are flying off the handle. They're making way more of this than a French person would".
I tend to agree.
I think original post, and the thread title, reflected a feeling of pro-American euphoria, (and some anti-French nationalism mixed in) that a lot of us felt when we saw how the race turned out.... but in a fun sort of way. The French had talked trash about our boys, and we beat them!.. and it felt good! We would have been happy just because America won, but the fact that the French had talked trash about our team just made it an even sweeter victory. So I think for a lot of us, it was an "in your face" moment, but in a competitive, fun, let's-go-USA kind of way... not in a mean-spirited kind of way.
I don't believe the word was being used as an epithet. I think some folks are making a lot more of this than we really need to.
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I think original post, and the thread title, reflected a feeling of pro-American euphoria, (and some anti-French nationalism mixed in) that a lot of us felt when we saw how the race turned out.... but in a fun sort of way. The French had talked trash about our boys, and we beat them!.. and it felt good! We would have been happy just because America won, but the fact that the French had talked trash about our team just made it an even sweeter victory. So I think for a lot of us, it was an "in your face" moment, but in a competitive, fun, let's-go-USA kind of way... not in a mean-spirited kind of way.
I don't believe the word was being used as an epithet. I think some folks are making a lot more of this than we really need to.
I used the word epithet in this sense: "An abusive or contemptuous word or phrase." And, on this side of the border, that's exactly what it is.
I think original post, and the thread title, reflected a feeling of pro-American euphoria, (and some anti-French nationalism mixed in) that a lot of us felt when we saw how the race turned out.... but in a fun sort of way. The French had talked trash about our boys, and we beat them!.. and it felt good! We would have been happy just because America won, but the fact that the French had talked trash about our team just made it an even sweeter victory. So I think for a lot of us, it was an "in your face" moment, but in a competitive, fun, let's-go-USA kind of way... not in a mean-spirited kind of way.
I don't believe the word was being used as an epithet. I think some folks are making a lot more of this than we really need to.
TR, my only point is that if a word is routinely and widely used as an epithet, and it is a word that you don't necessarily need to use...why use it in reference to the same people to whom people use it as an epithet (if that makes any sense).
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I used the word epithet in this sense: "An abusive or contemptuous word or phrase." And, on this side of the border, that's exactly what it is.
Bear with us on this side of the border then, please..........we WON!
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