Interesting Article on Joel Osteen

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by RevBuddy

His own words and teachings speak to his lack of biblical knowledge or anointing...

There are a lot of TEENAGERS at our church who could tell you plainly that
A) Mormons do not have bible salvation, and that
B) Hindus, Jews, and atheists are not on their way to heaven in their current spiritual state

... so how come a 45 year old man man pastoring 30,000 people cant give straight, biblically correct answers when asked such questions?

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Rhoni, you seem to think highly of the man.
I see you refer to him as being a man with "good biblical teaching".
So I have 2 quick questions for you:

What do you think of his comments regarding Jews, Muslims and Atheists getting into heaven?

....and what do you think of his comments regarding Mormons being "true Christians" ?

(the YouTube videos with his comments are above)

Originally Posted by Rhoni

To be honest, I have never heard such comments; so until I do I will refrain from a comment.

Blessings, Rhoni

Well, thats why I directed you to the videos, embedded on this very thread.

But anyway... I'll embed the videos below for your convenience:
Would you care to look at the videos and give us your thoughts? Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFcVLs__5hw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwYU2pmWYQ

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Since Joel Osteen is the subject of his thread, do you consider him to be a man grounded in sound doctrine, and a solid knowledge of the Word of God?

...or, to use your words, do you consider him to be one who "speaks plainly the sound doctrine of the Word of God"?

Honestly, no. However, since learning his "heritage" I've been trying to not be critical of him-- choosing to believe that the fire that was in his father will somehow consume him, one day.

There is something positive to be said about his "plain speak". He wouldn't have to give that up to be anointed and used of God. In fact, it would be an asset for the kingdom of God.

[Monkeyman]

I like JO, I like his church, and I LOVE his music team, I have covered most of their music! You probably have noticed, I don't criticize too much, there are enough of those around.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

I like JO, I like his church, and I LOVE his music team, I have covered most of their music! You probably have noticed, I don't criticize too much, there are enough of those around.

What do you like about his church?
And what do you like about him?

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

What do you like about his church?
And what do you like about him?

I like their exuberant worship, I like it that they smile, I love their stage setup, I like their organization in the office.

I like his speaking style and mannerisms, I like it that he encourages, I like the way he looks at and treats his wife in public, I like it that he gives his team much support in their ministries.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

I like his speaking style and mannerisms, I like it that he encourages, I like the way he looks at and treats his wife in public, I like it that he gives his team much support in their ministries.

Do his doctrinal shortcomings concern you at all?

[Monkeyman]

No. I am sure I won't agree with everything you preach but I still wouldn't criticize you. Again, there will be enough to criticize him and point out his shortcomings, you guys DON'T need me.

[Monkeyman]

My calling isn't to go out and show how everyone is wrong, my calling is to be a worship leader and that is enough on my plate. Hopefully when I stand before my Judge, He will say, "well done". What JO does or doesn't do doesn't have any impact on who I am, what I do, or how I live.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

No. I am sure I won't agree with everything you preach but I still wouldn't criticize you. Again, there will be enough to criticize him and point out his shortcomings, you guys DON'T need me.

Nobody is asking you to criticize the man.

The question had to do with "are you concerned that someone pastoring souls is off-base on the most basic biblical doctrines?". Either you are, or you're not.

(Or of course there are some who try so hard to appear "non-critical" or "non-judgmental" that they simply overlook false doctrine.)

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If your own pastor went on national TV and said he believes Mormons are saved... and if also he's evasive when asked if Hindus and atheists go to heaven, you're telling us you wouldn't be bothered by that?