Legitimate Apostolic Colleges

[Scott Hutchinson]

These people although we won't agree with them everything have a pretty good course I understand.
http://unitedchristianbiblecollege.com

[Rico]

Got a question about this Gateway college. If they are accredited, then why don't they accept government grants and federal student loans? Anyone know off the top of their head?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is the correct link.http://unitedchristianchurch.com/uni...institute.html

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is one from DR.Nelson.http://www.parkersburgbiblecollege.c...BC_history.htm

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

As far as "slamming" anyone that was not my intent. My intent is to show there is no basis for a Bible College in the Bible. The concept of it is not ordained by Jesus Christ. So if I am slamming anyone it is those Teachers and Admins who operate something so far off. Not the young people who dont know a better way.

And especially I am sounding out the message that every Pastor/Elder should be capable of teaching the whole counsel of God. If they cannot they should not be in Eldership.

Ephesians 4:11-12 speaks of the 5-fold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Who says the teaching has to be done only by the Pastor/elder in one's local church, [as you seem to be implying]?

What is wrong with creating institutions that prepare people for ministry and ministry-related work? I don't see how that violates any biblical principle.

As a matter of fact, Bible Colleges have been a useful tool to the body of Christ, having prepared tens of thousands of ministry workers to help fulfill the Great Commission. I don't think God has any problem with the existence of bible colleges at all, and I'm not sure why you do.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Here is another one of interest.http://awcf.org/content/view/31/61/

[rrford]

Man, I didn't realize that some of us that worked at Bible Colleges and feel that to be our calling and passion were beneath contempt to so many.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to get into a discussion about Bible Colleges and whether they are scriptural or satanic; whether they serve any good purpose or are only a roller coaster to marriage; but let me make a couple of salient points (not that it will really matter): I well realize that BC's are not accpetable to many in the Pentecostal ranks. No problem. Just don't want to argue with folks over it. Personally, when allowed to serve their real purpose BC's serve a definite good.

None of the UPCI Bible Colleges are accredited nor will any of them most likely be in the next few years. Gateway, like most other BC's have nearby accredited colleges where one can take classes simultaneously..

Bible College serves a far greater purpose in the lives of thoe CALLED TO MINISTRY than just Biblical education:

It also has more value than somewhere to find a spouse (although it can be a great place to find one.)

There are relationship and people skills that are developed in a BC setting that really is quite unique and can't be matched in man other places.

World views are expanded in an exponential way in a BC setting for many people.

I am not against secular education. I am against the mentality of telling a God called minister to get an "accredited" degree so they have something to fall back on. God has a degree in faith that has to be learned and earned somewhere, especially for those in the ministry.

After reading some of the repsonses on this thread it is little wonder to me why we are lacking young people with a deisre to pursue ministerial calling.

Now, I shall go find a corner to build an altar and repent for wasting my prime years investing my life, my anointing, my God given knowledge and ability into the hearts and lives of the next generation of ministry.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Ephesians 4:11-12 speaks of the 5-fold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Who says the teaching has to be done only by the Pastor/elder in one's local church, [as you seem to be implying]?

What is wrong with creating institutions that prepare people for ministry and ministry-related work? I don't see how that violates any biblical principle.

As a matter of fact, Bible Colleges have been a useful tool to the body of Christ, having prepared tens of thousands of ministry workers to help fulfill the Great Commission. I don't think God has any problem with the existence of bible colleges at all, and I'm not sure why you do.

Thanks for this post.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Bible college does seem to be a good idea to me.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Ephesians 4:11-12 speaks of the 5-fold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers. Who says the teaching has to be done only by the Pastor/elder in one's local church, [as you seem to be implying]?

What is wrong with creating institutions that prepare people for ministry and ministry-related work? I don't see how that violates any biblical principle.

As a matter of fact, Bible Colleges have been a useful tool to the body of Christ, having prepared tens of thousands of ministry workers to help fulfill the Great Commission. I don't think God has any problem with the existence of bible colleges at all, and I'm not sure why you do.

The teaching in the local Church certainly should not be limited to the Elders. Matter of fact I feel thats part of the problem. People are USUALLY only getting preached to as opposed to being taught.

As far as violating principle I have stated there is no command nor precedent for charging disciples of Yeshua to teach them his truth. Rather that is to be done in the local Church. If you can give me an example go ahead. Maybe I missed something.

Well thousands of workers may well have come out of the Colleges. I know for sure at least for a season the Lord will use a program that is not fully of him.