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Old 06-08-2008, 08:12 PM
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Re: Was Abraham's Relationship W/Hagar Adulterous?

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Old 06-08-2008, 08:14 PM
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Re: Was Abraham's Relationship W/Hagar Adulterous?

They sure pray a lot though.
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Old 06-08-2008, 08:19 PM
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Was Abraham's Relationship With Hagar Adulterous?
No,no law no sin.
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Old 06-08-2008, 08:26 PM
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They sure pray a lot though.
Yes,you would think God would hear their sincere pray and show them the truth,well some he does.He knows who will except him and who will not.We are predestinated according to our will.
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Old 06-08-2008, 08:30 PM
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No,no law no sin.
Was it a sin when Cain killed Abel? Law or not, sin is still sin.
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Was it a sin when Cain killed Abel? Law or not, sin is still sin.
God corrected and punished people as things took place.There was no law untill Moses.

Rom.4:[15] Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:07 PM
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God corrected and punished people as things took place.There was no law untill Moses.

Rom.4:[15] Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Was it murder when Cain killed Abel or wasn't it, Joelel?
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Re: Was Abraham's Relationship W/Hagar Adulterous?

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Yes,you would think God would hear their sincere pray and show them the truth,well some he does.He knows who will except him and who will not.We are predestinated according to our will.


Abraham Talking to the rich man in hell told him that if his 5 brohters would not listen to Moses and the prophets then they would not listen to a dead man come back from the grave.

Few of the Islamic people will listen to Moses and the Prophets, and few will listen to Jesus.
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Was it a sin when Cain killed Abel? Law or not, sin is still sin.
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13 Cain said to the LORD, "My punishment is more than I can bear. 14 Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me."

15 But the LORD said to him, "Not so [e] ; if anyone kills Cain, he will suffer vengeance seven times over." Then the LORD put a mark on Cain so that no one who found him would kill him. 16 So Cain went out from the LORD's presence and lived in the land of Nod, [f] east of Eden.


24 If Cain is avenged seven times,
then Lamech seventy-seven times."


25 Adam lay with his wife again, and she gave birth to a son and named him Seth, [i] saying, "God has granted me another child in place of Abel, since Cain killed him." 26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh.
At that time men began to call on [j] the name of the LORD.

The law had not been given yet.

Deut.12:
8Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day, every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes.
9For ye are not as yet come to the rest and to the inheritance, which the LORD your God giveth you.

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6 In those days there was no king in Israel, but every man did that which was right in his own eyes.

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Old 06-08-2008, 09:28 PM
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The law and the prophets were until John. But grace and truth came
by Jesus Christ.


Thank God for grace and truth!

Amazing grace, how sweet the sound;
That saved a wretch like me.
I once was lost, but now I'm found.
Was blind but now I see.

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