Barak Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination

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Originally Posted by CC1

Several black "leaders" publicly said that if Hillary "stole" the nomination from Obama that there would be riots in the streets at the Dem Convention.

Google it. I did not make that up. I read and saw on TV them say it with my own eyes and ears.

Jackson or Sharpton ... which of these surrogates orchestrated these comments?

Is this a highly charged issue for some ... of course. See slavery and segregation ... but to assume that it will happen because a couple of knuckleheads express hyperbolic free speech ...

is either not reading in between the lines ... or presumes that blacks can't handle a loss in this election w/ dignity and class.

Bill feels his wife has been the victim of a conspiracy and has been robbed too ... and has expressed this ... a former President, no less.

It's rhetoric, CC.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by A_PoMo

sharpton and jackson are not obama's surrogates by any stretch of the imagination. the only people who played the race card were the white cracker clintons. obama only responded, reluctantly, to their and their surrogate's charges. sharpton and jackson are the past and they know it. they just play to the old school crowd and get their amens and speaking fees and milk the cow until they're all dead. very few people below the age of forty take them seriously. obama conncects most effectively with an entirely different generation than sharpton and jackson, one that is less segregated and more open to racially inclusion than the older generations.

i'm a former ditto head.

I agree with a lot of what you say here.

While I don't think Obama himself will play the race card I do believe he is presenting himself as something he is not. He wants to appear as mainstream and a "unifier" when his past as a liberal activist in Chicago proves otherwise.

You don't sit and listen to the garbage his pastor spewed for 20 years and not leave if you are "mainstream" and not a radical.

Did you hear his church last Sunday cheering on that crazy RC priest as he called Hillary a white supremicist? Is that a "mainstream" group of people for Obama to have aligned himself with for the past 20 years?

Obama hides his extreme left wing agenda behind great oratory that does inspire and catches the imagination of young people and shallow mush heads who don't look beneath the surface.

At the end of the day he not only is the most left leaning canidate since George McGovern to run for President but he is also the least experience.

It is mind blowing that either party would nominate a canidate with only two years experience in the Senate and a few years as a state legislator before that.

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that is a joke to say that obama did not interject race into this nomination process, he is the one making speeches and going to selma and claiming to be down for the struggle, yeah of course he is, my goodness, dt

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Jackson or Sharpton ... which of these surrogates orchestrated these comments?

Is this a highly charged issue for some ... of course. See slavery and segregation ... but to assume that it will happen because a couple of knuckleheads express free speech ...

is either not reading in between the lines ... or presumes that blacks can't handle a loss in this election w/ dignity and class.

Bill feels his wife has been the victim of a conspiracy and has been robbed too ... and has expressed this ... a former President.

It's rhetoric, CC.

No less an intellectual giant than Rosanne Barr on her radio show called for these riots so it was not all civil rights activist has beens. LOL!!

BTW - I think you are wrong about it just being rhetoric. I full well believe that if Hillary had pulled off getting enough superdelegates to support her to have taken the nomination from Obama after he received the most elected delegates, there would have been riots at the convention.

How do you so easily dismiss the radical attitudes and perpsective shown by the Pastor Jeremiah sermonss? That church cheered those crazy statements like they were true. THOSE are the same crazy folks who would riot if denied their first black Presidential nominiee.

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Originally Posted by CC1

No less an intellectual giant than Rosanne Barr on her radio show called for these riots so it was not all civil rights activist has beens. LOL!!

BTW - I think you are wrong about it just being rhetoric. I full well believe that if Hillary had pulled off getting enough superdelegates to support her to have taken the nomination from Obama after he received the most elected delegates, there would have been riots at the convention.

How do you so easily dismiss the radical attitudes and perpsective shown by the Pastor Jeremiah sermonss? That church cheered those crazy statements like they were true. THOSE are the same crazy folks who would riot if denied their first black Presidential nominiee.

You are entitled to an opinion CC ...

there have been riots at conventions before.

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Yep.

This idea that voting for Obama is unChristian ... and the attempt to spiritualize this with end-prophecy ... hail Mary prayers ... and other comments in this thread ... such as "national suicides, dumb", etc. ..

is is what at times makes some Evangelicals and Fundamentalist seem extremist to the general population. Do we believe in the Bill of Rights, or not?

The world is not ending ... America has the backbone and, skeletal, and exoskeletal structure and thick epedermis to endure a presidency of a NON- WASPish leader ... I hope.

Long live the Constitution!!

Amen to that.

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i just find it hard to believe that you danny, a person i think is bright could support the most liberal candidate to ever run for pres, and on top of that , a man with no practical experience running anything, dt

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh

i just find it hard to believe that you danny, a person i think is bright could support the most liberal candidate to ever run for pres, and on top of that , a man with no practical experience running anything, dt

DT ... most liberal? Anymore liberal than Clinton was?

Surely we became socialists in the 90's

Give me a break. Let's have a serious discussion.

He's a Senator like McCain ... hello.

[DividedThigh]

he is by there own measure in the senate most lib and has the least of experience among any of the candidates, what are you danny in denial, dt

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Originally Posted by DividedThigh

he is by there own measure in the senate most lib and has the least of experience among any of the candidates, what are you danny in denial, dt

You like the word "most" ... don't you?