Snake Handling is Wrong? - Page 5

Bro-Larry · #41 06-06-2008, 09:24 PM

Snake handling is just another example of good honest and sincere people who are ignorant of the fact that KJV was inspired by King James of England, (circa 1611 AD). No version of the Bible is in the original autographs. You must rightly divide the word of truth.

The Bible is the infallable inspired word of God, when it was written in it's original autographs given by the Holy Spirit as He moved upon holy men of old. There are about five thousand handwritten copies of those original authgraphs, but there are no know originals in existance today.

There were meanings of words and phrases, which have been lost, debated and disputed, for centuries due to translation from the original Greek, and Hebrew languages. One must also take into account the fact that there are words which have become obsolete and archaic. There are words which are no longer in use.

tv1a · #42 06-07-2008, 12:18 AM

Are you saying the Bible doesn't mean what it says?

Maybe rightly dividing the word of truth doesn't meant speaking in new tongues in Mark 16 doesn't mean the Holy Ghost after all. If one makes exceptions for a literal translation of a portion of the passage, they may as well throw out the literal translation of the rest of the passage.

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Snake handling is just another example of good honest and sincere people who are ignorant of the fact that KJV was inspired by King James of England, (circa 1611 AD). No version of the Bible is in the original autographs. You must rightly divide the word of truth.

The Bible is the infallable inspired word of God, when it was written in it's original autographs given by the Holy Spirit as He moved upon holy men of old. There are about five thousand handwritten copies of those original authgraphs, but there are no know originals in existance today.

There were meanings of words and phrases, which have been lost, debated and disputed, for centuries due to translation from the original Greek, and Hebrew languages. One must also take into account the fact that there are words which have become obsolete and archaic. There are words which are no longer in use.

Bro-Larry · #43 06-07-2008, 09:41 AM

Am I saying the Bible doesn't mean what it says?

NO! I'm saying the Bible (in it's original autographs) does not always say what man's interpretaion, by translation, says it says.

Go back to my original post.

If you think that a scripture is establishing a precept, you must look for an example of how it is to be used. The example will always show you how to apply the precept. If you cannot find an example of the precept being used, you cannot apply the precept. You must then conclude that you are wrong in your interpretation.

This the primary way that the Bible interprets itself.
"...no prophecy of the scripture is of any private [hidden] interpretation." (2 Pet 1:20)

tv1a · #44 06-07-2008, 11:44 PM

I don't see any hidden interpretations in Mark 16. I see a lot hidden interpretations in explaining why it doesn't mean what it says.

Webster's New World Dictionary succintly defines the phrase "pick up" as " to grasp AND lift".

It seems to me you are the one with the private interpretation. The scripture looks like a literal passage to me.

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Am I saying the Bible doesn't mean what it says?

NO! I'm saying the Bible (in it's original autographs) does not always say what man's interpretaion, by translation, says it says.

Go back to my original post.

If you think that a scripture is establishing a precept, you must look for an example of how it is to be used. The example will always show you how to apply the precept. If you cannot find an example of the precept being used, you cannot apply the precept. You must then conclude that you are wrong in your interpretation.

This the primary way that the Bible interprets itself.
"...no prophecy of the scripture is of any private [hidden] interpretation." (2 Pet 1:20)

Bro-Larry · #45 06-08-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

I don't see any hidden interpretations in Mark 16. I see a lot hidden interpretations in explaining why it doesn't mean what it says.

Webster's New World Dictionary succintly defines the phrase "pick up" as " to grasp AND lift".

It seems to me you are the one with the private interpretation. The scripture looks like a literal passage to me.

Tv1a: Since you believe it so strongly, I'm sure you've practiced it. Right? You're not sinning by omission are you? How many times must one take up serpents in order to be saved?

tv1a · #46 06-09-2008, 12:27 AM

Please find the quote where I say one has to pick up a snake to be saved. Nothing like being misquoted and words distorted. It is NOT there. Here is the crux for salvation according to Mark 16. Belief and baptism. Picking up snakes is one of the signs that follows a believer. There is a big difference

Making Snake handling a salvational issue is just as wrong as making a subjective dress code and television a salvational issue.

I won't dignify your assumption of personal involvment with snake handling. Just remember the infamous quote about people who assume. Whether I pick up snakes or not is irrelevant to the topic.

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Originally Posted by Bro-Larry

Tv1a: Since you believe it so strongly, I'm sure you've practiced it. Right? You're not sinning by omission are you? How many times must one take up serpents in order to be saved?

jediwill83 · #47 06-10-2008, 12:00 PM

picking up rattlers isnt a test of faith. . . try cottonmouths...those are plain EVIL at least the rattler will warn you and try to get out of your way...cottonmouths will chase you...and circle the tree you have climbed waiting for you to come down.lol.either way if I was in a church and they broke out snakes i'd put into practice the scripture that says that HIS heel is going to crush the serpents head.This almost 300 pound fat guys gonna do a tap dance till they are ALL dead.lol.

Baron1710 · #48 06-10-2008, 12:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nidB3ONQdeg

Here is a link to Ray Stevens song Smokey Mountain Rattlesnake Retreat.

Bro-Larry · #49 06-11-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tv1a

Please find the quote where I say one has to pick up a snake to be saved. Nothing like being misquoted and words distorted. It is NOT there. Here is the crux for salvation according to Mark 16. Belief and baptism. Picking up snakes is one of the signs that follows a believer. There is a big difference

Making Snake handling a salvational issue is just as wrong as making a subjective dress code and television a salvational issue.

I won't dignify your assumption of personal involvment with snake handling. Just remember the infamous quote about people who assume. Whether I pick up snakes or not is irrelevant to the topic.

Most Snake Handlers do indeed teach that the practice is a salvational issue, and all your posts on this thread bear the marks of strong support for them.

Cindy · #50 06-11-2008, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83

picking up rattlers isnt a test of faith. . . try cottonmouths...those are plain EVIL at least the rattler will warn you and try to get out of your way...cottonmouths will chase you...and circle the tree you have climbed waiting for you to come down.lol.either way if I was in a church and they broke out snakes i'd put into practice the scripture that says that HIS heel is going to crush the serpents head.This almost 300 pound fat guys gonna do a tap dance till they are ALL dead.lol.

Along with copperheads, a very common problem at my house. I just have a strong dislike for poisonous snakes.