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05-10-2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
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I know all of my kids schools have them (well except for the church school)
And my youngest daughters school actually has a 70 in plasma mounted to the wall in the office and it scans from room to room continually w 4 cameras in each room... I can stand in the office and see if she is working without even going to the classroom.
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See, that just blows me away!
In the US the land of the free??? You have cameras in the classroom???
Not in Canada---yet.
Two years ago the Vancouver police wanted to put in cameras all over downtown Vancouver & there was a hue & cry over it about civil liberties being infringed upon that they backed down.
So much for Canuckastan north!
Anyone ever read George Orwell's 1984?
Ever heard the term Big Brother?
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05-10-2008, 04:55 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
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See, that just blows me away!
In the US the land of the free??? You have cameras in the classroom???
Not in Canada---yet.
Two years ago the Vancouver police wanted to put in cameras all over downtown Vancouver & there was a hue & cry over it about civil liberties being infringed upon that they backed down.
So much for Canuckastan north!
Anyone ever read George Orwell's 1984?
Ever heard the term Big Brother?
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I would much rather have a camera in a classroom and know that children are safe than not. And even in our small town we have cameras on our traffic lights. It takes a picture of your license plate if you run a red light, they can send you a ticket in the mail. In some instances have shown accidents as well.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-10-2008, 05:47 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
Our church has cameras in each kid's classroom. We have monitors in the foyer that show each room and what's going on. It helps parents to feel secure about leaving their children.
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05-10-2008, 05:56 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
My impression of her mother's little "crocodile tears". Just an impression. I could be wrong. We shall see. 
The story is too weird to go on a "14 year olds" account alone. JMHO. |
Why are you so skeptical? LOL!!! I thought the mother seemed genuinely upset. I know I would be, if I was in her shoes. I would be FURIOUS if anyone cut my daughter's hair without permission, regardless of why its long. And especially if its for religious reasons.
Whether the mother cuts her hair or not is irrelevant. Furthermore, if there was any legitimate dispute of the events, I think they would have already reported it or the school would have responded.
That would be like a teacher ripping a headcovering off of a muslim student. Or jerking a crucifix off the neck of a Catholic student. It's crossing a personal boundary, no matter how you look at it.
If the girl doesn't want her hair cut, then I think the mother should be commended for respecting her wishes, even if she doesn't hold that conviction herself. That isn't dysfunctional. In our home, we (the parents) set the bar, but our children are welcome to exceed them.
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05-10-2008, 06:01 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Why are you so skeptical? LOL!!! I thought the mother seemed genuinely upset. I know I would be, if I was in her shoes. I would be FURIOUS if anyone cut my daughter's hair without permission, regardless of why its long. And especially if its for religious reasons.
Whether the mother cuts her hair or not is irrelevant. Furthermore, if there was any legitimate dispute of the events, I think they would have already reported it or the school would have responded.
That would be like a teacher ripping a headcovering off of a muslim student. Or jerking a crucifix off the neck of a Catholic student. It's crossing a personal boundary, no matter how you look at it.
If the girl doesn't want her hair cut, then I think the mother should be commended for respecting her wishes, even if she doesn't hold that conviction herself. That isn't dysfunctional. In our home, we (the parents) set the bar, but our children are welcome to exceed them.
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Did you think the mother was genuinely upset? Okay. I am skeptical. A tone in her voice that I've heard before. Perhaps I am too suspicious.
I am thinking that this teacher has some time put in toward retirement and why would she jeopardize that for a hair cut? I could see her doing it for sex, but not a hair cut. Just saying with all the other lawsuits against teachers. It's mainly been the sex, which frankly, not an excuse, but that is a more engrossing element to deal with than a simple haircut.
The story is just weird. I want to know more.
BTW, nice to see you posting. Haven't seen you as often! 
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05-10-2008, 06:23 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
Good reason to keep our children out of public school.
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05-10-2008, 07:49 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
I agree Whole Hearted, if you can. Good to see you posting.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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05-10-2008, 11:10 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
Just on the surface I think the severity of this crime may be huge. If the teacher had knowledg concerning the religious symbolism involved she quite possibly is looking at jail time.
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05-10-2008, 11:13 PM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Why are you so skeptical? LOL!!! I thought the mother seemed genuinely upset. I know I would be, if I was in her shoes. I would be FURIOUS if anyone cut my daughter's hair without permission, regardless of why its long. And especially if its for religious reasons.
Whether the mother cuts her hair or not is irrelevant. Furthermore, if there was any legitimate dispute of the events, I think they would have already reported it or the school would have responded.
That would be like a teacher ripping a headcovering off of a muslim student. Or jerking a crucifix off the neck of a Catholic student. It's crossing a personal boundary, no matter how you look at it.
If the girl doesn't want her hair cut, then I think the mother should be commended for respecting her wishes, even if she doesn't hold that conviction herself. That isn't dysfunctional. In our home, we (the parents) set the bar, but our children are welcome to exceed them.
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Much more serious in my opinion... seeing that there is a significance in having it uncut since birth.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-11-2008, 07:26 AM
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Re: Teacher cuts girls hair without permission
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I'd need more information on the story. How does a "14 year old" sit still against their will? Just wondering.........
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Since the beginning of the school year the teacher had been threatening to cut her hair. She was working on something the teacher came up behind her and picked up her braid and threatened to cut it. She thought the teacher was joking then she her the snip. She began to cry. The teacher began to laugh.
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