I know that this may just be wishful thinking but just follow me for a minute... Wouldn't it just be ideal and clear up a whole lot of questions if the question of what we must do to be saved was specifically asked in the New Testament in our dispensation? Then if there was a clear and concise answer to that question it would probably free us of some of the confusion... It kind of makes you wonder why God would not include such an important element in the Bible.
Oh well, I guess it's just the Utopian in me looking for clear and simple answers.
Here is a point I have made over and over: In the bible not once ever did anyone question the purpose of water baptism. Not once did anyone put it off for a little while. Not once did anyone treat it as optional. Not once did Paul mention baptism as a work.....He did mention circumcision of the flesh and keeping the law.
In the bible the immediate response to hearing the gospel was trust, repentance and baptism
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I would actually like someone who is a one-stepper to tell me if they acutally believe that they should continue on with the repentence, baptism, and holy ghost getting. Do they believe that is necessary? Is the one step just something that if you 'believe' then you are saved if you have not completed the rest but are actively working on them? or if you believe then you are saved no matter what?
Is there like a time limit or a statute of limitations I wonder?
I would actually like someone who is a one-stepper to tell me if they acutally believe that they should continue on with the repentence, baptism, and holy ghost getting. Do they believe that is necessary? Is the one step just something that if you 'believe' then you are saved if you have not completed the rest but are actively working on them? or if you believe then you are saved no matter what?
jaxfam, it really depends on who you talk to.
some believe that the saved WILL manifest these things. In other words, they beleive that you are saved at that moment of faith and the saved will be baptized in Jesus name as a public profession of their salvic experience, and they will speak with new tongues.
others believe that one is saved when they have that moment of faith, and it doesnt matter wheither they are baptized or not or if they are baptized in the titles. it doesnt matter. These still baptize in the name of Jesus and their churches are pentecostal in experience ie. worship and spirit filled.
Honestly it really depends on who you are talking to.
the One Step view is a very broad term.
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some believe that the saved WILL manifest these things. In other words, they beleive that you are saved at that moment of faith and the saved will be baptized in Jesus name as a public profession of their salvic experience, and they will speak with new tongues.
others believe that one is saved when they have that moment of faith, and it doesnt matter wheither they are baptized or not or if they are baptized in the titles. it doesnt matter. These still baptize in the name of Jesus and their churches are pentecostal in experience ie. worship and spirit filled.
Honestly it really depends on who you are talking to.
the One Step view is a very broad term.
Guess I am finding that out.
I have always felt that salvation is at Faith but that faith leads you to works. (repentence, baptism, holy ghost) But I think if a person actually believes and does nothing then that is faith without works and, as the Bible states, is dead. Thus you can not be saved because you are dead and not alive in Christ. So do I qualify as a one or three stepper? or does that mean I am a four stepper? anywho no matter what I'll still be a two stepper for Jesus.
I have always felt that salvation is at Faith but that faith leads you to works. (repentence, baptism, holy ghost) But I think if a person actually believes and does nothing then that is faith without works and, as the Bible states, is dead. Thus you can not be saved because you are dead and not alive in Christ. So do I qualify as a one or three stepper? or does that mean I am a four stepper? anywho no matter what I'll still be a two stepper for Jesus.
Sounds classic PCI to me and I am comfortable with that.
(I now expect to be challenged on this....)
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Jax, there are a lot of folk who lay claim to the PCI doctrine that honestly IMHO dont look anything like "Classic PCI".
So if you seem classic PCI, then take that as a compliment.
As far dress, I suspect there again we are talking about a broad spectrum.
PCI guys have been everything from extremely conservitive on standards to extremely liberal.
so if you fall on that scale, then I suspect you would have found a home in what was the PCI.
Good post here. I would fall in the more liberal area to some, but more conservative to others. I agree the dress code thing is a broad area. You could include veils,long skirts, no watches, etc.
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