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Old 03-26-2008, 03:50 PM
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Nope,there were people of all races on the boat.Gen.6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee;they shall be male and female
Two of every living thing. Have you any idea what this means? If it meant only two of every race, why were Noah, his wife, his three sons and their wives, totally 8 people of one race, on that ark???
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Once again,no scripture.
Genesis 1-7. Read them all carefully. Surely you don't want it posted here.
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Sons of man are other races.
Scripture, please.
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Adam lived several hundred years and so did Eve...imagine how many children they had and imagine how many children their children had? That is where all the people came from.

Gen 2 is an elaboration of day 6
One very valuable note on Genetics. Today we have a problem with folks marrying related cousins etc.

Because we carry so many recessive genetic genes.

To marry away from your family tree will lower the % that 2 folks will have the same recessive gene.

When at the state of Adam and Eve it took several hundred years before the ozone and environment of death to mutate our cells.

So the first several generations lived longer because they had more pure cellular structure.

I know much about genetics with my son having a very rare recessive genetic blood disorder called Fanconi Anemia.

When 2 races come together and have children they have a less chance of having matching recessive mutated genes...
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It also doesn't prove they didn't, which is your claim.
The word says God created everything after it's own kind and that includes races of people.It's ignorant for anyone to think all kind of dogs came from one kind or all kind of birds came from one kind and so on with all creation.The same as all kind of races of people didn't come from one kind.

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[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:01 PM
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Scripture for how many people were on the earth? Do the math!

Adam died (and yes, I'm a math whiz) just 57 years after Noah was born. There were over half a million people on the earth when Noah started building the ark almost 500 years later. Noah was the last man to live as long as he did. His sons and those thereafter didn't live much longer than 120.

Adam through Noah, those people lived to see 8-10 generations after them. The numbers are exponential as to their direct descendants alone. Spread that family tree out farther as more people arrived on the earth and you get into the massive thousands quickly.

I knew a woman who lived to see five generations or her family. In total, she had over 500 descendants, over 200 of them being great-grandchildren. She only had 10 kids herself.

If one women and one man can produce that many in less than 100 years today, just imagine what Adam and Eve alone did in 1000 years!

Consider that only the eldest son of each bloodline is mentioned after Seth. However, there were countless other people involved that aren't mentioned. Noah had brothers and sisters. NONE of them were in the ark. Not a one.

However, interesting to note is that the bloodline mentioned before Noah had died before the flood happened, even his own father. I'm speaking only of those who are named in Genesis 6.

You also need to understand that the first 6 or 7 chapters of Genesis go back and forth in time. This is evidenced by chapter 6 reflecting on things that took place in the previous chapters, but speaks as if it didn't happen until chapter 6.
Your math proves nothing.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:06 PM
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Your math proves nothing.
Lol, oh this is comical! Math proves nothing, scripture proves nothing, only Joelel proves anything.

Unfortunately, it's not what he wants to prove.......
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Wow. Are you suggesting that although the Bible mentions several times that only 8 people were on the ark, the writers of the Bible didn't consider people of other races to be people? Cause that's exactly what you are doing.

In fact, the writers of the Bible don't ever acknowledge the presence of people of other races during the beginning of time from creation to after the flood! Proof that racism existed from creation and also came from God???

It don't mention several times,thought you was into math. ? There was only 8 sons of God on the ark but two of every other race .Other races are sons of man.No proof of racism,it's ignorance to think all races came from one race.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:14 PM
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Silence isn't a valid argument. Your points are all based on things the Bible never says, but you ask others for scriptural proof? LOL!
Fact is God created all creation after it's own kind and all creation brought forth after it's own kind. A black never brought forth a white or any other or any other way around.

Gen.1
[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
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The word says God created everything after it's own kind and that includes races of people.It's ignorant for anyone to think all kind of dogs came from one kind or all kind of birds came from one kind and so on with all creation.The same as all kind of races of people didn't come from one kind.

Gen.1
[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Those scriptures say nothing about races of people being considered 'after their own kind'.

God mentions grass and seeds, birds, fish, snakes, and beasts, but no mention of other people or other races.
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