There is no such thing as Revival

[GodsBabyGirl]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

If churches don't need reviving then why in the book of Revelation was a church instructed to return to their first love ?

Its not that one doesn't need reviving. It's the means of revival I take issue with.

I say revival is an INDIVIDUAL thing.

We can get all excited and huckabuck all we want. But when the lights go out and when the evangelist is gone on to the next church, check out the church in a month or so.

Same old same old.

How does one keep the fire going...?

Prayer...and going out and sharing what God has given you to others...

The event that we have termed 'revival' that goes on in the church and its ensuing effects are not long lasting.

Why there is no follow-up of new converts?

The fire goes out. Prayer wanes. The connection and the power we get at the revival wears off. Then the cares of life and attacks from the enemy gets the saints off focus.

The only thing that I know that keeps us connected to the source which is God, is prayer.

I am not against having services to provoke each other to good works. That is great. That should be happening EACH service.

I am saying let's not just depend so heavily upon the service. The preacher. The evangelist....the five fold ministry. Yes, they are there to edify, to build us up...

But we are responsible for our own growth in God. How far I get in God is ultimately up to me, not my pastor, not my church, not some evangelist coming in town.

I thank God for them, but I don't over rely on them.

Yes, we all need reviving.

But how we get revived needs to be revamped.

We need to pray. Period.

Prayer is the key...

[Brother Price]

I wish I had time to go into what I feel about this, but I will have to hold in until I get home this afternoon. In brief, though, I will say that we need a true heart felt, Spirit led, Bible based renewing and restoring to life of the Church and the saints, collectively and individually.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

I wish I had time to go into what I feel about this, but I will have to hold in until I get home this afternoon. In brief, though, I will say that we need a true heart felt, Spirit led, Bible based renewing and restoring to life of the Church and the saints, collectively and individually.

I wholeheartedly agree.

Along with some good old fashioned reasoning that is in alignment with cognitive reasoning.

That would help too.

[Apocrypha]

This was a rocking thread. I think I should do a Lazarus on it... ok "Come Forth!"

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Are alter calls in the bible?

Yes they are.

But altar calls may be another matter.

:-)

[Apocrypha]

Its all the bulls blood on the carpet that usually gets them out of the building in a hurry along with cutting up the doves as we hand it to the Sons of Aaron here at church. Our poor sister who does the cleaning.. you have no idea

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by erikwebster

Its all the bulls blood on the carpet that usually gets them out of the building in a hurry along with cutting up the doves as we hand it to the Sons of Aaron here at church. Our poor sister who does the cleaning.. you have no idea

Price you pay for doing it the old fashioned way brother!!!

[SonsOfTheOil]

wtg to whoeva started this thread. revival is over rated amongst us pentecostals because all we can think of its a bunch of sinners getting the holy ghost speaking in tongues and filling up our churches. the scriptures prove that God is more interested in producing kingdom minded-focused saints than just fly by nights. so yes revival as we know it only comes thru a hot evangelist that preaches to our emotions and call us to fly around the church at 80mph. revival as God sees it produces a people who are learned in his word, walk by his Spirit and understand that they really are more than conquerers etc etc etc

[Hoovie]

Is there scripture that teaches the masses will flock to the Christian life and devotion IF we are "Revived", "On Fire", or otherwise in the "Will of God"?

[Apocrypha]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Is there scripture that teaches the masses will flock to the Christian life and devotion IF we are "Revived", "On Fire", or otherwise in the "Will of God"?

nope. i should start another thread called "Theres no such thing as the perfect will of God (in the way we use the term)"