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Old 02-07-2008, 05:26 PM
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I agree with StMark. You can't change my mind about Obama. I know there are many defending him saying he is not Muslim, but I believe he would be very sympathetic towards the radical Muslims. Furthermore, I saw the video of him on stage with several other political figures and the pledge of allegiance was recited and the national anthem sang. Obama never crossed his heart, recited or sang. The other political figures all crossed their heart, recited the pledge and crossed their heart for the singing of the national anthem. It was not a partial video. It showed the entire recital of the pledge and singing of the anthem. The camera remained on the stage for the endurance. If Obama cannot respect our flag nor pledge allegiance to our flag, I don't want him. I further find it disgusting he would disrespect our national anthem. BTW, the church he now attends pledges allegiance to Africa. They also have a minister on staff that ministers to "same gender loving couples."
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NO TO OBAMA!!! I will vote for Hillary before I would vote for him.
You can't rewrite the history of the disgusting Clinton family. They are supposed to be christians and some UPCI Apostates actully support them.

How about AM.

I have seen the shame and smerk of the Clintons for far too long.

I am not saying that I did not support Greorg 'W" Bush.

But have we not already seen what a second Bush could do?

You will get the same minor league Clinton when and if Hillary get's in...

Can you imagine what Bill will be doing in the Oval office for the next 8 years...

With all that free time on his hands...

I bet he as many "Flowers" delivered to the Hillary's office...
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Old 02-07-2008, 06:33 PM
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You can't rewrite the history of the disgusting Clinton family. They are supposed to be christians and some UPCI Apostates actully support them.

How about AM.

I have seen the shame and smerk of the Clintons for far too long.

I am not saying that I did not support Greorg 'W" Bush.

But have we not already seen what a second Bush could do?

You will get the same minor league Clinton when and if Hillary get's in...

Can you imagine what Bill will be doing in the Oval office for the next 8 years...

With all that free time on his hands...

I bet he as many "Flowers" delivered to the Hillary's office...
AM and the Clintons is none of my business. What they do outside of the political arena is their perogative. I just made a statement I would vote for Hillary before I would vote for Obama. In other words, if my choices were only Hillary and Obama, I will take her. At least Hillary does have allegiance to our country and hasn't aligned herself to Africa.
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Old 02-07-2008, 06:44 PM
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AM and the Clintons is none of my business. What they do outside of the political arena is their perogative. I just made a statement I would vote for Hillary before I would vote for Obama. In other words, if my choices were only Hillary and Obama, I will take her. At least Hillary does have allegiance to our country and hasn't aligned herself to Africa.

I made my own statement it was not a response to yours.

The words I wrote were me standing up.

Not a reflection to your opinions.
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Old 02-07-2008, 07:55 PM
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If one turns on the light & sees their own shadow then we are going to have 4 more years of winter!!!
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:05 PM
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If one turns on the light & sees their own shadow then we are going to have 4 more years of winter!!!
And the fallout will result in a Nuclear Winter.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:06 PM
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I will not vote for Mutiny McCain.

I think the press should pick up my nickname for him....
So I turned on Fox news.

What was under a clip of McCain?

The title: McCain Mutiny

I almost fell out.

They put my nickname up for him within a few minutes....
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:15 PM
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Read all the way down....According to this rating, John McCain is more conservative than Obama and Hillary but look at who you are comparing him to.

This is from: http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/...u_ratings.html

Senator John McCain's lifetime rating of 82.3% from the American Conservative Union is often cited as proof that he is conservative. Here is a closer look at that 82.3 rating.


First, a rating of 82.3 is not really that high. It puts Senator McCain in 39th place among senators serving in 2006, the latest year for which the ACU has its ratings posted online. For that most recent year in particular, McCain scored only 65, putting him in 47th place for that year. Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE), for example, scored 64 and 75, respectively, in 2006.


Generally, McCain has voted less conservatively in more recent years. His average for 1990-97 was 88, but was only 74 for 1998-2006. Below are his yearly ratings since 1990.


Year
ACU Rating

2006
65

2005
80

2004
72

2003
80

2002
72

2001
68

2000
81

1999
77

1998
68

1997
80

1996
95

1995
91

1994
96

1993
83

1992
85

1991
86

1990
87



So where did McCain differ from the ACU? The big areas were taxes, campaign finance reform, the environment and, most recently, immigration. There was also a smattering of support for trial lawyers; federal intervention in health, education, safety or voting issues; internationalism; and some social issues. He was more consistently conservative on spending and defense issues. The list below summarizes all his votes since 1998 that differed from the ACU's position.


Year and Issue
Vote Margin

2006, Taxes
50-50

2006, Immigration
50-49

2006, Immigration
62-36

2006, Social: Same Sex Marriage
49-48

2006, Native Hawaiian Govt.
56-41

2006, International: Iran sanctions
54-45

2006, Immigration: Border Fence
71-29

2006, Social: Embryonic Stem Cells
63-37

2005, Taxes
51-49

2005, Environment: Climate Change
60-38

2005, Environment: mercury emissions
51-47

2005, Environment: ANWR
51-48

2005, Taxes: Oil & gas development
51-48

2004, Spending/Social: School vouchers
65-28

2004, Regulation: seat belts
57-41

2004, Legal Reform: Gun manufacturers
70-27

2004, Spending: Unemployment
58-39

2004, Taxes
51-48

2004, Spending: Education of disabled
56-41

2004, Legal Reform: Torts
44-43

2003, Taxes
50-50

2003, Taxes
50-50

2003, Taxes
51-49

2003, Environment: Kyoto
55-43

2002, Voter fraud, state control
55-40

2002, Regulation: SUV fuel efficiency
56-44

2002, CFR
60-40

2002, Taxes: death tax
55-44

2001, CFR
69-31

2001, CFR
60-40

2001, CFR
57-43

2001, Taxes: marriage penalty
73-27

2001, Taxes: capital gains
51-47

2001, Taxes
58-33

2001, Taxes/Health: med. savings accounts
53-45

2001, Legal Reform: torts
54-42

2000, Taxes
56-44

2000, International: Troops in Kosovo
53-47

2000, CFR: Brad Smith on FEC
65-35

2000, CFR
57-42

1999, International: Troops in Kosovo
N/A

1999, Health: managed care
N/A

1999, Spending
N/A

1999, CFR
N/A

1998, Health: surgeon general confirm.
75-23

1998, CFR
50-47

1998, CFR
50-48

1998, CFR
51-48

1998, Taxes: tobacco
72-26

1998, Taxes: tobacco
57-42

1998, International: Troops in Bosnia
65-31

1998, International: IMF lending
74-19




Another piece of information from the list above is that many of the votes were close. In one third of these votes, a swing of only two senators would have changed the outcome. In over two thirds, a swing of ten senators would have changed the outcome. As someone remarked, McCain is like a baseball player who gets all his hits after two outs and no one on base, and all his outs with men in scoring position.


As might be expected, ACU ratings essentially reflect party affiliation. At the halfway point, ranking 50th, we have Richard Shelby (R-AL, formerly D-AL) with a lifetime score of 74.2. But Robert Byrd (D-WV) ranks just slightly lower at 58th, with a score of only 29.6. By the time you get to 66th place, all scores are below 20.


What this means is that McCain's ACU ratings since 1998 put him on the liberal side among Republicans. The few Republicans consistently more liberal than McCain would be Chafee (formerly R-RI), Collins (R-ME), Snowe (R-ME) and Specter (R-PA). One could expect senators from northeastern states to be more liberal since their constituencies demand it, but McCain represents the fairly conservative state of Arizona. (Arizona's other senator, Kyl, has a lifetime rating of 96.9, and half the representatives from there have ratings of 94.7 or higher.)


How much more liberal would McCain vote if his constituency put even the slightest pressure on him in that direction?


On the other hand, Senator Clinton (D-NY) has a lifetime ACU rating of 9 (83rd place) and Senator Obama (D-IL) has a rating of 8 (86th place).


Not much the cheer about here.
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Re: Your Predictions for the coming elections???

We are having our primary this Saturday and for the first time I will not be voting. I am a registered Democrat ( long story) and this is the first closed primary we have had in years. So, I can only vote for the Democratic candidate. I cannot vote for Obama, I do believe he has Muslim leanings, and I am not thrilled about Hillary. So, I will not vote. I doubt I will vote in the general election either. I am very surprised at the momentum that Obama has gotten! The talking heads say it is the young people that are supporting him. I just wonder if they will get out and vote?
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We are having our primary this Saturday and for the first time I will not be voting. I am a registered Democrat ( long story) and this is the first closed primary we have had in years. So, I can only vote for the Democratic candidate. I cannot vote for Obama, I do believe he has Muslim leanings, and I am not thrilled about Hillary. So, I will not vote. I doubt I will vote in the general election either. I am very surprised at the momentum that Obama has gotten! The talking heads say it is the young people that are supporting him. I just wonder if they will get out and vote?

I'm a registered Democrat too but I will NEVER vote for Obama!
This man refused to salute the flag. This guy is anti American and anti christian! and I believe if he becomes president that he'll be sworn in on the Koran.
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I'm a registered Democrat too but I will NEVER vote for Obama!
This man refused to salute the flag. This guy is anti American adn anti christian! and I believe if he becomes president that he'll be sworn in on the Koran.
I agree.
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