Oh yes, the blood certainly is there and works on our behalf at all times.
We need to confess our sin and our short coming daily.
If I ever say I have arrived and have no need of the mediator, I have then believed a lie. It is through a repentant state that I live victorious, and not by an absence of transgressions (though it can have such a result)
If we say we have no sin, we lie.
Nobody is saying that sin doesn't dwell in us. We're saying that we don't have to live sinning continually, don't have to live captive to sin but rather to live overcoming sin.
There's the ongoing struggle - the same one Paul fought - when he talked about wanting to do good but not always able to do the good he wanted to do. We all struggle, but we can live an overcoming life.
If we couldn't, there wouldn't be much point to salvation.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
In another thread it was mentioned concerning the Tulsa situation that changes has caused many to want to change.
I wanted to discuss what the changes are that you have noticed.
For myself I have noticed the following.
1. Most church no longer have foot washing.
2. Most new churches are being built without altars.
3. I see more women cutting their hair.
4. I see men and women coloring their hair.
5. I see more jewelery.
6. Many folks now have TV's in their homes.
7. Many now go to the theather.
8. I see more make-up.
9. Shorter dresses again, (saw them in the 70's as well)
10. Many women feel it is ok to wear pants.
11. Everyone now has a computer it seems.
12. Many feel it is not necessary to pay tithes.
Now these are some of the changes I have noticed since I have been in the church. I'm not saying all of these are wrong, but these are things you didn't see 30 years ago.
Did I miss anything?
I have noticed that a lot of people look older..............hummmmmmm............somewhere in the neighborhood of about 30 years older............
Perhaps there are some semantics involved but, while I don't doubt you are ready for the kingdom through His blood, I do doubt you had a perfectly Christ-like day.
We fall short - every day. That is not an excuse to sin. But an acknowledgement that is crucial and central to Christian confession.
1 John 2: 1: My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
Nobody is saying that sin doesn't dwell in us. We're saying that we don't have to live sinning continually, don't have to live captive to sin but rather to live overcoming sin.
There's the ongoing struggle - the same one Paul fought - when he talked about wanting to do good but not always able to do the good he wanted to do. We all struggle, but we can live an overcoming life.
If we couldn't, there wouldn't be much point to salvation.
Hmmmm... I am saying we have sinfulness - enough to make us less then perfect. I am not saying we should expect to fulfill the lust of the flesh nor commit the sins of the flesh everyday.
I have met a few OP's who believe they were sin-free and said they "never sinned" after being born again. Hogwash! Such a statement IS sin.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
1 John 2: 1: My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
That provision is a lifesaver. For ALL of us!
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Hmmmm... I am saying we have sinfulness - enough to make us less then perfect. I am not saying we should expect to fulfill the lust of the fesh nor commit the sins of the flesh everyday.
I have met a few OP's who believe they were sin-free and said they "never sinned" after being born again.
I think we agree. I hope so because I hate to think of people thinking it's impossible to live and walk in victory.
If we walk in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Condition ---- Promise.
That doesn't mean that the sin nature has been obliterated. The struggle between doing what's right and doing what's wrong will exist as long as our flesh is alive.
But we don't have to live a slave to sin, otherwise salvation is of no use whatsoever and neither is the power of the Holy Ghost.
I'm thinking we probably agree here. It would be hard to imagine that we didn't on this topic having read your posts in the past.
__________________ Smiles & Blessings.... ~Felicity Welsh~ (surname courtesy of Jim Yohe)
I think we agree. I hope so because I hate to think of people thinking it's impossible to live and walk in victory.
If we walk in the Spirit we will not fulfill the lust of the flesh. Condition ---- Promise.
That doesn't mean that the sin nature has been obliterated. The struggle between doing what's right and doing what's wrong will exist as long as our flesh is alive.
But we don't have to live a slave to sin, otherwise salvation is of no use whatsoever and neither is the power of the Holy Ghost.
I'm thinking we probably agree here. It would be hard to imagine that we didn't on this topic having read your posts in the past.
Wow... I certainly don't want to be arguing in favor of sin!
Slave to sin? God forbid!
In need of the grace and mercy of God on a daily basis? Yes!
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Rom6:1: What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2: God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3: Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7: For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8: Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9: Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10: For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11: Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12: Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13: Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14: For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15: What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16: Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17: But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18: Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19: I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20: For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21: What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22: But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom6:1: What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2: God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3: Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7: For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8: Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9: Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10: For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11: Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12: Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13: Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14: For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15: What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16: Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17: But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18: Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
19: I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
20: For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
21: What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death.
22: But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
23: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
And still yet, you and I both have asked for, and recieved, forgiveness of sin AFTER our enlightenment to Christ. Correct?
The acknowledgement of our continual need of him is the key to living life in the Spirit.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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