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Old 03-12-2007, 12:00 AM
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Thanks for clarifying, I didn't understand what you all were going on about, but I do tend to be gullible so I can appreciate your caution.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:06 AM
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I'm not sure I'm following what you and the others are saying.

What does it matter how he became infected with the AIDS virus? If he sinned and has since repented, then God has forgiven him. If it was by a needle stick or blood transfusion, would that make it more palatable to feel compassion on him?
If he got AIDS from a needle or a blood transfusion, he probably would have said so.

If he sinned and repented; I do not believe he could have, would have written the post that he did.

(Apostolic Churches embrace those that repent to the best of my knowledge and belief).

If he isn't repentant and is claiming to be a brother it matters.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:06 AM
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If he got AIDS from a needle or a blood transfusion, he probably would have said so.

If he sinned and repented; I do not believe he could have, would have written the post that he did.

(Apostolic Churches embrace those that repent to the best of my knowledge and belief).

If he isn't repentant and is claiming to be a brother it matters.
Good post. Thanks for saying what I couldn't get into the right words.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:11 AM
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If he got AIDS from a needle or a blood transfusion, he probably would have said so.

If he sinned and repented; I do not believe he could have, would have written the post that he did.

(Apostolic Churches embrace those that repent to the best of my knowledge and belief).

If he isn't repentant and is claiming to be a brother it matters.

I don't think a claim of brotherhood was made by Chosen ..... This is what Chosen asked of us ....

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I apologize for this being so lengthy, but I'm not sure if after what I've disclosed if I would be welcomed back. I would want you to know that people need love and fellowship regardless of what society would think of them. Give a part of yourself to minister to others outside of your comfort zone. I'm not asking for myself...I'm asking for those who would never ask for fear of being rejected.

May God richly bless you and keep you in perfect peace. Never put limits on the grace and mercy of our Father
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:12 AM
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If he got AIDS from a needle or a blood transfusion, he probably would have said so.

If he sinned and repented; I do not believe he could have, would have written the post that he did.

(Apostolic Churches embrace those that repent to the best of my knowledge and belief).

If he isn't repentant and is claiming to be a brother it matters.
Good observations, but he also said
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Through my ministry, I've worked side by side with many people including gay ministers.
without including himself in that group by saying something like "with other gay ministers".

I agree with you that Apostolic churches embrace those that repent and that is perhaps what I'm having the most trouble understanding in his post, is why he is completely forsaken which would lead to your last observation.
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:26 AM
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I don't think a claim of brotherhood was made by Chosen ..... This is what Chosen asked of us ....
Chosen claims a relationship with God and closes his post by saying "Never put limits on the grace and mercy of our Father." I think caution is in order...
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Old 03-12-2007, 12:37 AM
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Old 03-12-2007, 01:48 AM
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Wow this thread is tripping me out !!

Heavenlyone and Newman, what if Rhoni could verify that this is real?
would you change your mind about this being fake? think about it,what would a person have to lose of they are dying.

Rhoni where are you
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Old 03-12-2007, 06:47 AM
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Wow this thread is tripping me out !!

Heavenlyone and Newman, what if Rhoni could verify that this is real?
would you change your mind about this being fake? think about it,what would a person have to lose of they are dying.

Rhoni where are you
Rhoni is out of town for a week...even if she were here, can she verify anything she doesn't know first hand?

And for the record, HO and Newman are not saying this is fake...they are questioning because they have been burned before.
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Until we find out let's give the person a listening ear...and a prayer...
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