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Old 12-01-2007, 09:33 PM
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One other interesting little tid bit...the celebration was NOT communion as we know it today. It was a Passover meal or a Shabbat meal. What we do today, with a swig of juice and a cracker isn't even remotely close the biblical observation!!!
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I guess I missed Sharpie's point. Ronzo was pretty much right on. The first successful attempts at canning fruit was in Napoleonic times. This was followed on by the temperance movement in America during the 1800's when:

1869 Dr. Thomas Bramwell Welch, a physician and dentist by profession, successfully pasteurizes Concord grape juice to produce an "unfermented sacramental wine" for fellow parishioners at his church in Vineland, N.J., where he is communion steward. His achievement marks the beginning of the processed fruit juice industry.

The above is quoted straight from the Welch's Grape Juice site.
There goes another myth out the window ....
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One other interesting little tid bit...the celebration was NOT communion as we know it today. It was a Passover meal or a Shabbat meal. What we do today, with a swig of juice and a cracker isn't even remotely close the biblical observation!!!
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One other interesting little tid bit...the celebration was NOT communion as we know it today. It was a Passover meal or a Shabbat meal. What we do today, with a swig of juice and a cracker isn't even remotely close the biblical observation!!!
So then do "we" even actually celebrate the Lods death till he come?

Do we do this, as oft as we do it, in remebrance of him?

Are we apostolics just following a traditon born in the catholic church?
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You too 'naysharp'.

Hey there... do you want beernuts wid that?

Relax in your liberty - you... Icookwithwinepentecostal.

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So then do "we" even actually celebrate the Lods death till he come?

Do we do this, as oft as we do it, in remebrance of him?

Are we apostolics just following a traditon born in the catholic church?
Add the doctrine of baptismal regeneration and we might as well start implementing rosary beads during the morning vespers.
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sorry typo...www.snopes.com, I was jesting about debunking the myth of grape juice...carry on!
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So then do "we" even actually celebrate the Lods death till he come?

Do we do this, as oft as we do it, in remebrance of him?

Are we apostolics just following a traditon born in the catholic church?
In a word, "YES!" (among other traditions we thing are biblical because we have superimposed them "backwards" upon the scriptures and declared that it was the "way" it was done back then.
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