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Old 11-20-2007, 12:21 AM
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I find this whole thread has pretty much been used as a sad excuse to assassinate someone's character. Honestly.

Even as an Admin I'm shocked it hasn't been shut down before now.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:24 AM
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I find this whole thread has pretty much been used as a sad excuse to assassinate someone's character. Honestly.

Even as an Admin I'm shocked it hasn't been shut down before now.

how so?? all kidding aside i am seriously lost as to what you are referring to. with the exception of the same usual post, i haven't seen a lot of bashing- if you just point out what and where maybe then we'll all know
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:27 AM
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Typical. Fear, fear, and more fear.

I have heard this fear message preached my whole life. That is how they keep us locked in.

Watch out the anti-christ is coming to put a chip in your hand.

Look out there is a demon in your house because you listened to "CHRISTIAN ROCK" music.

Don't let your kids play baseball because there was a family once that did and they left church.

If you cut your hair God won't protect your family.

If you don't shout when the preacher yells you must not love Jesus.

If you grow a beard then you are rebellious which is the same as the sin of witchcraft.

Watchout those charismatics will get you and you will be lost forever.

You know after a while the fear stops working and it make these folks develope serious hate issues. That is why so many UPCers have bad attitudes, I can say this because I used to be this way. Because they feel that because they do certain things that they will be more holy and more spiritual and when they see someone going to a baseball game or wearing shorts they just can't understand why God would bless those people.

I remember coming home from youth camp and having this guilt that we shouldn't do anything in life that might make us "perform" less in church.




I'm just starting to read through this thread now.

To me these comments do not represent the majority of pastors. Not in my experience anyhow.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:30 AM
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I find this whole thread has pretty much been used as a sad excuse to assassinate someone's character. Honestly.

Even as an Admin I'm shocked it hasn't been shut down before now.
I have not read the whole thread... But from what I have read and posted... this has been a dissection of a message that was preached and then dissecting everyones opinion of it...
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:33 AM
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I have not read the whole thread... But from what I have read and posted... this has been a dissection of a message that was preached and then dissecting everyones opinion of it...

Honestly that is what I have seen. I have read the entire thread.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:34 AM
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was the message not posted on their site for anyone to hear ?
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:36 AM
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I read the entire thread and listened to the entire message.
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:37 AM
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That's too bad...sad day indeed, sounds like Oregon or typical West Coast style.
Absolutely not true, sister, at least not for Oregon. What's with the sniping from your new piece of real estate, anyway?
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:40 AM
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It's the same as when you decide to change churches in Oregon...you can no longer fellowship with the people of the church you left, even if you stay UPC.
Again, this a blanket statement that is NOT TRUE!!!! Honestly, would you not take your personal experience and broadbrush my entire district? I personally know plenty of folks who have changed churches who have fellowship freely with the folks from the church they left (I would be one of those people, btw.)
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Once again the Admin team is asking for personal attacks to be stopped. Individuals have been addressed in PM to reflect the changes necessary.

The issues are open to discussion. Personalities being attacked is not acceptable and must be stopped.
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