Ms Bratty and Stew, I think you have both mentioned in the past few days that you believe Zim should be be arrested based primarily on the the 911 tapes. (sorry if that is not the case). Have you now rethought this position, given the revelation that those very tapes have likely been distorted and misrepresented by the media?
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Ms Bratty and Stew, I think you have both mentioned in the past few days that you believe Zim should be be arrested based primarily on the the 911 tapes. (sorry if that is not the case). Have you now rethought this position, given the revelation that those very tapes have likely been distorted and misrepresented by the media?
I don't recall saying that, and initially I had only listened to the full audio of the tapes. I didn't hear the clipped version until it was reported that NBC had aired an edited version.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I guess were some of you are misunderstanding me is in the notion that nobody is saying anything about black on black crime. Al Sharpton may not be saying anything about it, but there are thousands of voices in black America that do all the time. I think some of you all just fall for the sensational media games. It was on a young black radio show that I heard about how many shootings have already taken place in chicago this year. It is a huge problem and that was the point of their conversation. I and many of my contemporary art actively working to change what we see. Once again this case struck a nerve because the killer was walking away.
And my question to you and others in the black community on this forum is, will you walk away, when its revealed that he walked for a reason, he was innocent of doing anything illegal ?
And my question to you and others in the black community on this forum is, will you walk away, when its revealed that he walked for a reason, he was innocent of doing anything illegal ?
I think Stew would be fine. But unfortunately, I think news of acquittal would be met with something reminiscent 1992... and I sincerely hope I am wrong about that!
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
I don't recall saying that, and initially I had only listened to the full audio of the tapes. I didn't hear the clipped version until it was reported that NBC had aired an edited version.
I apologize then. I guess my point is, we can't be sure what we have until it's admitted into court. Doctored tapes. Doctored pictures. Tons of misinformation.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Ms Bratty and Stew, I think you have both mentioned in the past few days that you believe Zim should be be arrested based primarily on the the 911 tapes. (sorry if that is not the case). Have you now rethought this position, given the revelation that those very tapes have likely been distorted and misrepresented by the media?
Hoovie, I listened to the entire 911 call from beginning to end. The segment that you're talking about is something that occurred weeks later.
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Hoovie, I listened to the entire 911 call from beginning to end. The segment that you're talking about is something that occurred weeks later.
OK. Are these on the Sanford Police Dept site?
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
And my question to you and others in the black community on this forum is, will you walk away, when its revealed that he walked for a reason, he was innocent of doing anything illegal ?
Canam, I am just confused as to where your absolute certainty comes from. There is nothing in the evidence that would warrant that in my opinion. If he called 911 to say that someone was chasing him as opposed to running from him I would understand. If he told the dispatcher" yes I will be sitting in my truck by the mailbox" instead of "no, call me so I can tell you where I will be" I would understand. If he had 1 drop of blood on his clothes or a torn shirt, I might still say that he created an un necessary confrontation but I might understand your position better. As it is, I just don't see why you're so confident that he is justified.
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There are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, Chuck Norris lives in Houston.
Either the United States will destroy ignorance, or ignorance will destroy the United States. – W.E.B. DuBois
Canam, I am just confused as to where your absolute certainty comes from. There is nothing in the evidence that would warrant that in my opinion. If he called 911 to say that someone was chasing him as opposed to running from him I would understand. If he told the dispatcher" yes I will be sitting in my truck by the mailbox" instead of "no, call me so I can tell you where I will be" I would understand. If he had 1 drop of blood on his clothes or a torn shirt, I might still say that he created an un necessary confrontation but I might understand your position better. As it is, I just don't see why you're so confident that he is justified.
My question stands, even though i think your answer has already been revealed.... Imo the black community as a whole is so upset with the rampant immorality, multiple children born to different mothers, the drugs,the rampant murders , the black on black crime period, that they look for anything to blame it on except the one in the mirror and " whitey" is a great target, despite the fact zim is multi cultural and despite the fact Zim was a strong advocate for the black community over the years, none of that matters,as long as we convince people its" the mans" fault,just blame it all on "the man" The black community as a whole will be outraged to learn anything different about this incident and they will plug their ears and scream its all been fixed, the man did it, the man did it.
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