Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by CC1
Very much so. I found it funny he was telling everybody who has an issue with the extra biblical legalism they shouldn't say anything about it since they are not UPC, etc. As if you have to be UPC to discuss UPC issues.
Many of us have our roots in the UPC and still have many friends and family members that are a part of it so it is still important to us. Not to mention I have hope that it will progress to a point where it will get beyond the extra biblical legalism and truly bring Jesus Name Baptism to the world and the rest of Christendom.
It's hard for me to understand things myself... like why people who left years ago are still so preoccupied with what the UPC does? Why haven't they moved on to 'truly bring Jesus Name Baptism to the world and the rest of Christiendom'?
I know people personally who left years ago and are doing their own thing for the Kingdom. They seldom talk about the UPCI and what the UPCI does or doesn't teach... they're just busy doing what they do.
I think it's an honest question myself.
I also don't believe that a person must be a minister to take part in these discussions, especially if they are an actual long time member of the UPCI or a UPCI church.
As far as facial hair... I would say, of all the churches I have been to in my life, only one would have still preached against men having facial hair. It was a non issue in most of the churches I have been to. And never taught against. It's kind of over in my neck of the woods.
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by A_PoMo
Don't bring it up in a sermon and you might get fired. Even if the book was written by the mother of the guy that fired you. Ask Loren Yadon.
Just a couple of comments....
1) I'm fairly certain that facial hair in a sermon had nothing to do with LY being asked to leave his post.
2) As much I love LY and his wife, I think if everyone associated with the situation was completely honest with themselves, they would admit that if he hadn't be so "in your face" with the teaching that was the cause, he would not have been asked to leave. His boss was (is) very tolerant - until direct disobedience to a request takes place.
He was a GREAT teacher on just every day life and living for God - being a true Christian, family relationships, etc. I was very sorry to see him go.
BTW - is your avatar a picture of yourself?
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
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Just a couple of comments....
1) I'm fairly certain that facial hair in a sermon had nothing to do with LY being asked to leave his post.
2) As much I love LY and his wife, I think if everyone associated with the situation was completely honest with themselves, they would admit that if he hadn't be so "in your face" with the teaching that was the cause, he would not have been asked to leave. His boss was (is) very tolerant - until direct disobedience to a request takes place.
He was a GREAT teacher on just every day life and living for God - being a true Christian, family relationships, etc. I was very sorry to see him go.
BTW - is your avatar a picture of yourself?[/B]
LOL.... he wishes.
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW
It's hard for me to understand things myself... like why people who left years ago are still so preoccupied with what the UPC does? Why haven't they moved on to 'truly bring Jesus Name Baptism to the world and the rest of Christiendom'?
I know people personally who left years ago and are doing their own thing for the Kingdom. They seldom talk about the UPCI and what the UPCI does or doesn't teach... they're just busy doing what they do.
I think it's an honest question myself.
I also don't believe that a person must be a minister to take part in these discussions, especially if they are an actual long time member of the UPCI or a UPCI church.
As far as facial hair... I would say, of all the churches I have been to in my life, only one would have still preached against men having facial hair. It was a non issue in most of the churches I have been to. And never taught against. It's kind of over in my neck of the woods.
The real question is do YOU have facial hair????
My wife agrees with you by the way. The UPC is just a distant part of her past to her. She doesn't understand why I still associate with UPC folks, forums, etc like I do. She has lots of UPC relatives and some friends but getting her to visit a UPC church is like pulling teeth. She had some bad experiences with people who didn't know her from Adam judging her by her looks and trying to drag her to altars in the first few years after we left back in the early 80's. I, of course, fit in just fine in any old time Pentecostal meeting. The most I have to do is pull of my wedding ring and the one other ring I wear and I look like a typical fat Pentecostal preacher!
I am sorry if it bothers you I am still interested in the UPC and what it does but that is the way it is. I am not going away!
Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by CC1
The real question is do YOU have facial hair????
My wife agrees with you by the way. The UPC is just a distant part of her past to her. She doesn't understand why I still associate with UPC folks, forums, etc like I do. She has lots of UPC relatives and some friends but getting her to visit a UPC church is like pulling teeth. She had some bad experiences with people who didn't know her from Adam judging her by her looks and trying to drag her to altars in the first few years after we left back in the early 80's. I, of course, fit in just fine in any old time Pentecostal meeting. The most I have to do is pull of my wedding ring and the one other ring I wear and I look like a typical fat Pentecostal preacher!
I am sorry if it bothers you I am still interested in the UPC and what it does but that is the way it is. I am not going away!
Yeah that nose ring really does separate the goats from the sheep!
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis
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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea
Just a couple of comments....
1) I'm fairly certain that facial hair in a sermon had nothing to do with LY being asked to leave his post.
2) As much I love LY and his wife, I think if everyone associated with the situation was completely honest with themselves, they would admit that if he hadn't be so "in your face" with the teaching that was the cause, he would not have been asked to leave. His boss was (is) very tolerant - until direct disobedience to a request takes place.
He was a GREAT teacher on just every day life and living for God - being a true Christian, family relationships, etc. I was very sorry to see him go.
BTW - is your avatar a picture of yourself?
I can almost always tell when certain subjects will bring SweetPea out of hiding. She seems to remain sweet in spite of any negativity ... and that's a point in her favor.
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