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Old 07-20-2010, 11:07 AM
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Yeah, he's got David Bernard, Nate Wilson and Tertullian (love how those names all go into one sentence)

NEWSFLASH: rdp is attempting to appeal to scholarly opinions here!
Oh, so it's perfectly fine for you to appeal to whom you want, but not me ???

Bernard has a doctorate degree & is just as educated as many of the men you quote. Same w/ Wilson, though not as much as Bernard.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:08 AM
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Oh brother...
Typical "evidence" from the Jeffrey bench !

Have to check in later.........don't worry, I'll be back!
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:09 AM
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Jfrog, I conducted a study of the various translations [about 10 of the most popular] sometime back. When you put together all of the linguistical scholars on the various committee's [combining, say, the KJV, NKJV, NASB, HCBS, NIV, TAB, etc.] you have about 1000 language experts.

I'm well satisfied w/ the meticulous work that has gone into them as accurate reflections of the greek. If you aren't, then I would simply [& kindly] question your credentials in the greek language to w/stand 1000 experts.
Then accept the KJV translation.

1 Peter 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

Notice how adorning is not beside of apparel in the english sentence! So stop trying to act like it somehow ought to be there since you accept this translation. I also want you to realize that the KJV translators didn't just throw away the word adorning, they just moved it to right after "whose" because that is where it ought to go in the english sentence. This is what the KJV scholars have declared by their work and not me.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:11 AM
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Oh, so it's perfectly fine for you to appeal to whom you want, but not me ???

Bernard has a doctorate degree & is just as educated as many of the men you quote. Same w/ Wilson, though not as much as Bernard.
They don't have doctorates in greek do they?
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Oh, so it's perfectly fine for you to appeal to whom you want, but not me ???

Bernard has a doctorate degree & is just as educated as many of the men you quote. Same w/ Wilson, though not as much as Bernard.
Appeal to whomever you want Scholars preferrably...

So a Doctorate degree is how you determine scholarship?

You must've missed that thread we had here on AFF recently. It'd be good for your blood pressure to go check out.

What's Nate Wilson's degree in? What's DKB's degree in? What schools have them graduated from? How much work have they done in published and recognized exegesis? How many years of handling and reading Koine Greek do they have among them? I think it's humorous you'd include them as a scholarly appeal that's all....
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:13 AM
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Typical "evidence" from the Jeffrey bench !

Have to check in later.........don't worry, I'll be back!
Oh, I'm sure you will. Just repeating the same illogical, ignorant junk.

Pretty much done with your merry-go-round. The peanut gallery works better.
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:16 AM
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Oh, so it's perfectly fine for you to appeal to whom you want, but not me ???

Bernard has a doctorate degree & is just as educated as many of the men you quote. Same w/ Wilson, though not as much as Bernard.
That is roll-around-on-the-ground-laugh-until-your-side-hurts-and-you-can't breath funny.

Bernard and Wilson....
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:17 AM
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No, I fully agree w/ context. But the context of I Ptr. 3 & I Tim. 2 was the external w/ the internal. The former had a "no" tied to it, while the latter had a "yes" tied to it.

There's much, much more that I could state about NT believers being the dwelling/temple of God, but have gotta' run....probably wouldn't be considered anyway!
WTH?

Tripping over your own logic here. Careful... it's getting slippery.

When confronted with your inconsistency, you pulled the "well, that's different" card (natural vs. whatever it is you said). That's exactly the point!!! I believe the theme/content dictates the severity and full range of expressions/what they mean! That's what I've been saying. So, when in a corner, you finally agree to interpret things by context. However, your criteria is somewhat shaky --- natural vs. unnatural -- or whatever you said. Like you just make things up.

Clear and plain, rdp. Clear and plain! Don't you know what "NOT" means!!!! Quit erasing the word!
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:18 AM
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That is roll-around-on-the-ground-laugh-until-your-side-hurts-and-you-can't breath funny.

Bernard and Wilson....
I was seriously chuckling on that one. What was better was:

"Bernard, Wilson, Tertullian,..."

hahahahahahahaaha
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Old 07-20-2010, 11:22 AM
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His next scholarly appeal will be Lee Stoneking, Bobby the Attorney at his church and Douglas Moo. All in one breath
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