The UPC is a dying movement!

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by n david

That post hasn't aged well.

34,000 UPC youth at NAYC last week was a resounding response to those who gleefully predicted the demise of the organization. It's not dying, it's not doomed.

Chester Wright: "Some left the UPCI saying we're too strict or not strict enough & prophesied our doom? NOTHING DEAD abt the 34,000 in Indy! #NAYC17"

I admire and respect Chester Wright.
However, numbers alone do not indicate success.
Also, I had friends from WPF and ALJC who attended.
So, not all of those attendees were UPC.
I will say that I agree with his premise.
The curious thing that happened with the departure of some to the WPF was that the UPC became more conservative.
And the WPF has grown more "tolerant" since it began.

[Aquila]

The UPCI, ALJC, PAW, etc., etc., are just human organizations. What does it matter if they live or die? If they live, they will remain as monuments to our glory days. If the die, new human organizations will simply replace them. Our focus should be the Kingdom of God.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

The UPCI, ALJC, PAW, etc., etc., are just human organizations. What does it matter if they live or die? If they live, they will remain as monuments to our glory days. If the die, new human organizations will simply replace them. Our focus should be the Kingdom of God.

I agree. I just find it amusing that the haters sat back several years ago, rubbing their hands with glee, gloating over the split, waiting for the UPC's demise; now a decade later, it's not only still alive, but growing.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

I agree. I just find it amusing that the haters sat back several years ago, rubbing their hands with glee, gloating over the split, waiting for the UPC's demise; now a decade later, it's not only still alive, but growing.

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

I admire and respect Chester Wright.
However, numbers alone do not indicate success.
Also, I had friends from WPF and ALJC who attended.
So, not all of those attendees were UPC.
I will say that I agree with his premise.
The curious thing that happened with the departure of some to the WPF was that the UPC became more conservative.
And the WPF has grown more "tolerant" since it began.

Do you attend a WPF church?

What examples can you give of the WPF becoming more tolerant? (not necessarily a bad thing)

[Sister Alvear]

Dear ones....history repeats itself...give it a few years and the WPF will have its splits too...As long as there are organizations there will be splits....

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

I agree. I just find it amusing that the haters sat back several years ago, rubbing their hands with glee, gloating over the split, waiting for the UPC's demise; now a decade later, it's not only still alive, but growing.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by TakingDominion

Do you attend a WPF church?

What examples can you give of the WPF becoming more tolerant? (not necessarily a bad thing)

The church I attend fellowships both UPC and WPF.
I attend functions for both groups and have been in official capacities for both.
As to the WPF growing more tolerant, I base this on my observations from attending their functions from the first year to this one.

[houston]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

The church I attend fellowships both UPC and WPF.
I attend functions for both groups and have been in official capacities for both.
As to the WPF growing more tolerant, I base this on my observations from attending their functions from the first year to this one.

Tolerant of what?

[TakingDominion]

Originally Posted by houston

Tolerant of what?

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