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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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It is in the historical accounts.
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Where?
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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That stuff was laid to ruin already, GLP.
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So God is going to leave His temple and destroy temples which were already destroyed?
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Yes.
6. Samaria's punishment is mentioned first, as it was to fall before Jerusalem.
as an heap of the field--( Micah 3:12 ). Such a heap of stones and rubbish as is gathered out of fields, to clear them ( Hosea 12:11 ). Palestine is of a soil abounding in stones, which are gathered out before the vines are planted ( Isaiah 5:2 ).
as plantings of a vineyard--as a place where vines are planted. Vineyards were cultivated on the sides of hills exposed to the sun. The hill on which Samaria was built by Omri, had been, doubtless, planted with vines originally; now it is to be reduced again to its original state ( 1 Kings 16:24 ).
pour down--dash down the stones of the city into the valley beneath. A graphic picture of the present appearance of the ruins, which is as though "the buildings of the ancient city had been thrown down from the brow of the hill" [Scottish Mission of Inquiry, pp. 293,294].
discover the foundations--destroy it so utterly as to lay bare its foundations ( Ezekiel 13:14 ). Samaria was destroyed by Shalmaneser.
7. all the hires--the wealth which Israel boasted of receiving from her idols as the "rewards" or "hire" for worshipping them ( Hosea 2:5 Hosea 2:12 ).
idols . . . will I . . . desolate--that is, give them up to the foe to strip off the silver and gold with which they are overlaid.
she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot--Israel gathered (made for herself) her idols from the gold and silver received from false gods, as she thought, the "hire" of her worshipping them; and they shall again become what they had been before, the hire of spiritual harlotry, that is, the prosperity of the foe, who also being worshippers of idols will ascribe the acquisition to their idols [MAURER]. GROTIUS explains it, The offerings sent to Israel's temple by the Assyrians, whose idolatry Israel adopted, shall go back to the Assyrians, her teachers in idolatry, as the hire or fee for having taught it. The image of a harlot's hire for the supposed temporal reward of spiritual fornication, is more common in Scripture ( Hosea 9:1 ).
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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So God is going to leave His temple and destroy temples which were already destroyed?
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
Sean, did you read this commentary in its entirety when you took it off the website?
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Sean, then God treaded down the high places in 722 BC?
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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The verse in question says this...
3 For, behold, the Lord cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the high places of the earth.
4 And the mountains shall be molten under him, and the valleys shall be cleft, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.
Stuff happens to Israel, then it says this.....
Micah 4(Chapter 4)
4 But in the last days it shall come to pass, that the mountain of the house of the Lord shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.
2 And many nations shall come, and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for the law shall go forth of Zion, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
4 But they shall sit every man under his vine and under his fig tree; and none shall make them afraid: for the mouth of the Lord of hosts hath spoken it....
We see 2 passages concerning His 2nd coming, then more stuff happens, then the book concludes with His 2nd coming.....
16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.
17 They shall lick the dust like a serpent, they shall move out of their holes like worms of the earth: they shall be afraid of the Lord our God, and shall fear because of thee.
18 Who is a God like unto thee, that pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage? he retaineth not his anger for ever, because he delighteth in mercy.
19 He will turn again, he will have compassion upon us; he will subdue our iniquities; and thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.
20 Thou wilt perform the truth to Jacob, and the mercy to Abraham, which thou hast sworn unto our fathers from the days of old.
So what I see is the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, in the beginning, the middle, and the end of the book.
The "possibly" thing I mentioned, is just in case God saw things in the Spirit, that we cannot see, and described it to us, using comparisons.
Btw, this is my perspective is of this book, and not a doctrine that I can call absolute.
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Where do u see the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ in the beginning(ch.1:3-6) when u said the beginning was Samaria getting treaded on, mtn's melting, valley's splitting etc?
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
Shag, I gotta work manana....Let's resume this chat at your convenience....Good night.
Benincasa, back to the dungeon. The moon is full and dont let anyone let you out. See you manana!
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Where is the 2nd coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, in the beginning, when u said the beginning was Samaria getting treated on, mtn's melting, valley splitting etc?
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Sean, do you believe Micah 1:3-4 is in 722 BC or in the future?
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Shag, I gotta work manana....Let's resume this chat at your convenience....Good night.
Benincasa, back to the dungeon. The moon is full and dont let anyone let you out. See you manana!
Oh, and, you will not get my tithe you GLP!
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That figures, here we have Mr Preterist killer running away?
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