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05-19-2007, 05:55 PM
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Oh yes lets keep dan but run off OGIA.
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05-19-2007, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Again for those advocating jewelry from the OT is:
Polygamy okay today
Concubines okay today
Vengence okay today
Divorce okay today????
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also the Lord told the Israel army to kill the enemy -every man,woman boy & Girl. don't here of that today.
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05-19-2007, 05:56 PM
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1Tim. 2:9 forbids gold and pearls. NOT is simple to me.
What does NOT mean to you????
That part of NOT don't you understand?????
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I think that I Timothy refers to cost and precious metals, though...not a particular item...e.g., a cheap ring is fine. 
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05-19-2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
1Tim. 2:9 forbids gold and pearls. NOT is simple to me.
What does NOT mean to you????
That part of NOT don't you understand?????
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context!!!
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05-19-2007, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
1Tim. 2:9 forbids gold and pearls. NOT is simple to me.
What does NOT mean to you????
That part of NOT don't you understand?????
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Ok elder, then being consistant with this verse, gold is wrong, pearls are wrong, diamonds are NOT wrong because it does NOT say diamonds. It does NOT say ear rings. It does NOT say rings. It does NOT say necklaces. it does NOT say silver...it only says gold and pearls...so for some odd reason God hates gold and pearls but everything else is cool.
That should be enough to make someone really examine this verse to see WHY he says what he says and the way he says it
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05-19-2007, 05:57 PM
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Divorce was not anymore "ok" under the law than it is now. Nothing was changed. Polygamy was never "ok" under the law nor wrong. Just not addressed. Vengeance was not ok under the law either, Justice was ok..what changed?
I have a question....is God a god that changes his mind back and forth? First it was ok now it is not?
Elder you need to look at what the NT says a little closer. If you are gonna take this verse LITERALLY then you need to be consistent and say gold and pearls are wrong, silver and other gems are ok. It does not say "Jewelry is a sin"...it does not say "wearing something that is shiny is wrong", It does not say "men wearing rings are going to hell"...this verse is specifically about women, gold and pearls and we should find out why. If jewelry is wrong universally then why does the NT not say so? Where does it say men can't wear rings in the NT?
If this verse is about jewelry then why only say gold and pearls and not "jewelry"? Why not cover diamonds and emeralds and silver?
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05-19-2007, 05:58 PM
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I think that I Timothy refers to cost and precious metals, though...not a particular item...e.g., a cheap ring is fine. |
NOPE a separate issue NOT with gold, OR pearls, OR costly array!!!!!!!!
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Is very simple.
I KNOW I am in compliance with NOT how can you be sure??????? 
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05-19-2007, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Ok elder, then being consistant with this verse, gold is wrong, pearls are wrong, diamonds are NOT wrong because it does NOT say diamonds. It does NOT say ear rings. It does NOT say rings. It does NOT say necklaces. it does NOT say silver...it only says gold and pearls...so for some odd reason God hates gold and pearls but everything else is cool.
That should be enough to make someone really examine this verse to see WHY he says what he says and the way he says it
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You are being foolish and you know it. Gold-pearls-costly array takes care of the rest.
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05-19-2007, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
NOPE a separate issue NOT with gold, OR pearls, OR costly array!!!!!!!!
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Is very simple.
I KNOW I am in compliance with NOT how can you be sure??????? |
Elder Epely how do you answer folks that say " well it doesn't say you can't wear diamonds saphire and silver" ?
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05-19-2007, 06:01 PM
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You are being foolish and you know it. Gold-pearls-costly array takes care of the rest.
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cheap diamonds???? cheap [not so] precious stones?? doesn't take care of the rest!!!
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