Why not the last sentence? You should have seen me a few times when we (ok, just myself) would run into someone at a fast food joint and they would go into full "shun" mode. It is great fun to actually walk toward them and watch them react like a vampire to a cross.
I should seriously try this!!!
Also, in my experience, even though I "knew" how we were supposed to treat people that "left the church" when I was there, I only knew how I treated people. I had no clue how others did it, and I certainly had no clue what it felt like either!! Some politely shun, like they are sorry they have to do it because they really love me and wish they could talk to me and find out how I am doing. Some act like they hope I burn in hell. Hey, maybe they think THEY will burn in hell if they act nice to me, thus why they "react like a vampire to a cross" as Randy quoted.
Last edited by SeekingOne; 05-17-2010 at 10:21 PM.
Reason: Thought of something to add
So in biblical times, both men and women wore robes, yet they were cut differently... nowadays both men and women wear trousers (I try not to use the word pants because it causes my friends from the UK to laugh hysterically), yet they are cut differently. If there is a modesty issue for women wearing trousers, then there is a modesty issue for men wearing trousers, since men quite frankly have more stuff between their legs to hide.
Being of Celtic descent, I've often thought of wearing a kilt, I don't have one, and probably never will, but I doubt my ancestors 300 years ago would have thought they were feminine garments. Why is it okay for the MAN's garments to change over time, but not the woman's?
Boy, I leave for a couple of months or more, and I miss all these great posts from people I have never heard from before! Brad, you and me are going to get along just great!
None of the people here that believe that pants are men's clothing have EVER been able to tell us when it was no longer "of the world" to wear pants instead of the kind of robes Jesus wore. You KNOW if the UPC had been around, they would have NEVER gone for men wearing pants!!
I guess it is a good thing that men started wearing pants before the UPC began, that way it wasn't worldly.
Also, in my experience, even though I "knew" how we were supposed to treat people that "left the church" when I was there, I only knew how I treated people. I had no clue how others did it, and I certainly had no clue what it felt like either!! Some politely shun, like they are sorry they have to do it because they really love me and wish they could talk to me and find out how I am doing. Some act like they hope I burn in hell. Hey, maybe they think THEY will burn in hell if they act nice to me, thus why they "react like a vampire to a cross" as Randy quoted.
What is funny, and not unexpected, is that the ones who acted the most ridicules were the ones who actually bad mouthed the pastor and the church FAR more than us before we actually left. Just a bunch of Bertha-better-than-you's sitting in their amen-pews.
Rom 16:17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
2Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Rom 16:17Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
2Tim 4:3-4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
Sounds like advice on how to handle Ultracons to me
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