Do you think Two Church services a month is enough? - Page 43

Praxeas · #**421** 04-18-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Awwww Mich. You know what I mean sis. I'm really not trying to be flippant or dismiss the fact that people aren't affected when others who they trust fail and disappoint them. I know that it can be hurtful.

You see if I was perfect then I might have more of an issue with others who aren't. But because I'm not perfect and because I've made mistakes and failed then it's easier to understand how someone else might too. But that doesn't mean that their lives haven't been a blessing and help to many and that they can't be again either.

You have to keep the main thing the main thing. I think that when you trust God with all your heart it's easier to trust others and to understand that God trusts people enough to CALL THEM into ministry knowing full well that they will make mistakes along the way. This is important and perhaps if you look at it this way it might be helpful.

I hope so.

Why are you so mean to her? Why do you hate her

rgcraig · #**422** 04-18-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Good post.

I can't understand why people would generally overall hate preachers. Without a preacher none of us would be saved.

I think that there are people who have issues with rebellion against any kind of authority and that includes spiritual authority as well.

The REAL issue isn't preachers who fail. The REAL issue is rebellion. IMO.

Please don't anyone stone me for saying that.

Rico · #**423** 04-18-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Paths

No you did not say that, but you did say this

and it caused me to ask the question.

So this relieves you of any responsibility or integrity?

AND I ANSWERED YOU

Old Paths · #**424** 04-18-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

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AND I ANSWERED YOU

You did?

Michlow · #**425** 04-18-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Awwww Mich. You know what I mean sis. I'm really not trying to be flippant or dismiss the fact that people aren't affected when others who they trust fail and disappoint them. I know that it can be hurtful.

You see if I was perfect then I might have more of an issue with others who aren't. But because I'm not perfect and because I've made mistakes and failed then it's easier to understand how someone else might too. But that doesn't mean that their lives haven't been a blessing and help to many and that they can't be again either.

You have to keep the main thing the main thing. I think that when you trust God with all your heart it's easier to trust others and to understand that God trusts people enough to CALL THEM into ministry knowing full well that they will make mistakes along the way. This is important and perhaps if you look at it this way it might be helpful.

I hope so.

I'm sorry

It did seem flippant and so I (over) reacted. I have trust issues, yes, but I don't have any particular dislike of the ministry or Pastors. In fact, the pastor of the church that I go (when I go

) is a great guy, and it is a good church, and if I had to chose an institutional UPC church, it would be the closest to perfect for me that I could find.

The only problem seems to be that I refuse to place the Pastor in a place of spiritual superiority. I do not deny his right to make the decisions regarding the local church that he is the leader of. I simply deny him any place between me and Jesus. I also deny that his opinion in matters of scripture have any more or less validity than any other born again believer.

Simply, that all preaching beyond quoting scripture is simply giving one's opinion in how scripture is applicable to our lives. I do not believe that someone with a title in the ministry necessarily is any more capable of hearing from God that someone without a title.