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Old 07-12-2007, 09:27 PM
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I am saved by the blood of Jesus that washes away my sin...
J Roc, you are saved because a preacher preached that foolishness to you.

even if you dont want to admit it.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:27 PM
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But it was only a couple days ago that you mentioned the little prophet saying those exact words...as I say...pretty ironic eh?
okay, I'm clueless here....what little prophet is this? what words?
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:31 PM
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J Roc, you are saved because a preacher preached that foolishness to you.

even if you dont want to admit it.
the point is that I was saved by Christ (vertically) while you keep saying I was saved by man (horizontally)....and yet this is a red herring as it has nothing to do with the matter at hand.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:32 PM
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Okay, Bro Strange, I went and fetched it for you as this has been addressed earlier in this thread...
Thanks bro J.

Since the above treatise did not not treat the subject of money, I suppose it would be just fine to bring one chicken out of ten or one bushel of butter beans out of ten or one goat out of ten down to Life Tabernacle this Sunday Morning. In doing this in a very generous way, I am not quite sure how this would help the ministry. They might get fat for sure, but the gospel may not get too far down the road. Ever drive up to the gas pump to fill up and then paid for it with a large box of fresh eggs...garden fresh eggs, no less? It just does not seem to fit the plan, somehow.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:34 PM
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J Roc, you are saved because a preacher preached that foolishness to you.

even if you dont want to admit it.

Just in case you thought I had something against the ministry...I direct you to a comment earlier in this thread:



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Quite frankly, I LOVE the ministry and love it so much I hold it in high regard in its truest representation. In fact, I honor and appreciate and admire men and Pastors, like MOW or Truly Blessed, who represent the ministry wonderfully through their speech....in their example, I see Christ shining through...and I want to be just like them as they are just like Christ....
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:36 PM
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But it was only a couple days ago that you mentioned the little prophet saying those exact words...as I say...pretty ironic eh?
Pretty ironic?

Praxeas, in the crowded world of "little prophets," a couple of days ago is ancient history.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:39 PM
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Thanks bro J.

Since the above treatise did not not treat the subject of money, I suppose it would be just fine to bring one chicken out of ten or one bushel of butter beans out of ten or one goat out of ten down to Life Tabernacle this Sunday Morning. In doing this in a very generous way, I am not quite sure how this would help the ministry. They might get fat for sure, but the gospel may not get too far down the road. Ever drive up to the gas pump to fill up and then paid for it with a large box of fresh eggs...garden fresh eggs, no less? It just does not seem to fit the plan, somehow.
Okay then if you really want to capture the theme here, you'll have to back up to some posts from earlier today because to respond to you would require me to reiterate so many things I already posted...so in the interest of avoiding redundancy I invite you back up and read if you truly are interested, if not, that is okay too, I suppose.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:46 PM
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Just in case you thought I had something against the ministry...I direct you to a comment earlier in this thread:
JRoc, I dont think and I dont really care what youve said. I did see you exchange barbs with a pretty salty preacher here. Then I saw him draw back and be both kind and serious. then I saw you and your childhood chum take potshots at him.

That struck my heart.

Peace bro.

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV)
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:52 PM
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JRoc, I dont think and I dont really care what youve said. I did see you exchange barbs with a pretty salty preacher here. Then I saw him draw back and be both kind and serious. then I saw you and your childhood chum take potshots at him.

That struck my heart.

Peace bro.

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV)
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

And I am sure you turned a blind eye to your "salty preacher's" comments that insinuated I was a child of the devil....just before his "kind and serious" comments that suggested I was bitter about something....as if he knew anything about me.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:54 PM
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Hypothetical Scenario:


Joe Preacher is a pastor of a 20 person congregation...and the church size has been around this same relative number for the past 15 years. Joe Preacher just doesn't seem to attract a following, not because of anything morally wrong, but simply because he is a dull speaker, has a monotone voice and really does not go into much depth in his teachings. So, most who visit, simply do not stick around. However, there is one member, Daddi Warbux, of this small congregation that earns $80 million annually. Should Daddi be tithing $8 million a year (10%) to this church and should Joe Preacher live as a millionaire as a result of this one person's tithing?


What say ye?
My first post in this long thread.........

What difference does it make whether it's a church of 20 or a church of 500? Would it make a difference?
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