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Old 05-01-2007, 11:48 PM
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And exactly how do genes interact with environment? Give an example, please.
Sister, this was part of the problem with how this thread ended up, despite my reminding everyone....KEEP IT BIBLICAL. That is all that matters and all that was expected in this kind of discussion. What the bible says is the only thing that matters on this topic.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:17 AM
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Sister, this was part of the problem with how this thread ended up, despite my reminding everyone....KEEP IT BIBLICAL. That is all that matters and all that was expected in this kind of discussion. What the bible says is the only thing that matters on this topic.
Prax, while I understand what you are saying, he didn't say anything IN THAT POST about homosexuality. I was addressing his words in that post alone. That post cannot be answered scripturally, therefore I didn't feel it relevant to ask for scripture.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:19 AM
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I will be praying for you.

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I appreicate your prayers and I say this with total sincerity.

A received a myspace message from a friend telling me some of my content had been edited. I just signed in to see if this was the case and, much to my suprise, it was.

I don't understand how a forum like this can maintain any sort of integrity if the moderators so subjectively censor its content. I was very careful not to say anything offensive and attempted to be as respectful as possible. Not allowing all of my comments to be shared with this community is borderline dishonest and definitely misrepresents me as a participant. I am disappointed.
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Old 05-02-2007, 10:58 AM
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I appreicate your prayers and I say this with total sincerity.

A received a myspace message from a friend telling me some of my content had been edited. I just signed in to see if this was the case and, much to my suprise, it was.

I don't understand how a forum like this can maintain any sort of integrity if the moderators so subjectively censor its content. I was very careful not to say anything offensive and attempted to be as respectful as possible. Not allowing all of my comments to be shared with this community is borderline dishonest and definitely misrepresents me as a participant. I am disappointed.
Your ONE comment that was deleted by another administrator was considered as "promoting" the homosexual lifestyle. It is my understanding that you were told that would not be allowed, and that the conversation would be a "biblical" discussion.

I edited where someone quoted the comment which was removed by another administrator. To my knowledge, there were not any other edits made in the entire thread.

When you post on ANY internet forum you are agreeing that moderators/admins can for content that violates the rules.

Did you read the rules here when you registered? If not, you might want to do so.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:07 AM
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Your ONE comment that was deleted by another administrator was considered as "promoting" the homosexual lifestyle. It is my understanding that you were told that would not be allowed, and that the conversation would be a "biblical" discussion.

I edited where someone quoted the comment which was removed by another administrator. To my knowledge, there were not any other edits made in the entire thread.

When you post on ANY internet forum you are giving your posts a right to be edited for content that violates the rules.

Did you read the rules here when you registered? If not, you might want to do so.
May I ask what rule I violated? Also, if there are two points to be discussed, and the Administration of this website can obviouslly only support one of the two views, wouldn't the opposing viewpoint automatically be promoting something contrary to what the Administration supports? How can silencing the promotion of an opposing viewpoint provide for a healthy and productive discussion? Are you going to censor/edit a comment made by a Trinitarian because their comments are promoting a Trinity?

The truth is pretty evident. The Administration, as well as others who were participating in this discussion, were uneasy with the fact that someone had legitimate arguments that were well informed and effectively communicated. I was censored for no other reason than I was ruffling the narcissistic feathers of those who had the ability to silence me.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:11 AM
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May I ask what rule I violated? Also, if there are two points to be discussed, and the Administration of this website can obviouslly only support one of the two views, wouldn't the opposing viewpoint automatically be promoting something contrary to what the Administration supports? How can silencing the promotion of an opposing viewpoint provide for a healthy and productive discussion? Are you going to censor/edit a comment made by a Trinitarian because their comments are promoting a Trinity?

The truth is pretty evident. The Administration, as well as others who were participating in this discussion, were uneasy with the fact that someone had legitimate arguments that were well informed and effectively communicated. I was censored for no other reason than I was ruffling the narcissistic feathers of those who had the ability to silence me.
Insufferable arrogance.

I find it extremely ironic that you accuse others of narcissism after your preening self-evaluation of how well informed and effective a communicator.

Let me clue you in on a little theological insight from Romans 1.

One of the steps down the road to perversion is worshipping the creature more than the Creator.

The reason many homosexuals go that direction is that they are so in love with themselves that they become attracted to a mirror image of what they are, rather than the opposite gender.

You are a textbook case.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:15 AM
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May I ask what rule I violated? Also, if there are two points to be discussed, and the Administration of this website can obviouslly only support one of the two views, wouldn't the opposing viewpoint automatically be promoting something contrary to what the Administration supports? How can silencing the promotion of an opposing viewpoint provide for a healthy and productive discussion? Are you going to censor/edit a comment made by a Trinitarian because their comments are promoting a Trinity?

The truth is pretty evident. The Administration, as well as others who were participating in this discussion, were uneasy with the fact that someone had legitimate arguments that were well informed and effectively communicated. I was censored for no other reason than I was ruffling the narcissistic feathers of those who had the ability to silence me.

Brad this would make a great argument if it the opposing view was pro homosexuality.

Homosexuality is a sin period.

There is no opposing view, there is nothing to argue about.

If you are looking to drum up some support this probably isn't the place for you.
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May I ask what rule I violated? Also, if there are two points to be discussed, and the Administration of this website can obviouslly only support one of the two views, wouldn't the opposing viewpoint automatically be promoting something contrary to what the Administration supports? How can silencing the promotion of an opposing viewpoint provide for a healthy and productive discussion? Are you going to censor/edit a comment made by a Trinitarian because their comments are promoting a Trinity?

The truth is pretty evident. The Administration, as well as others who were participating in this discussion, were uneasy with the fact that someone had legitimate arguments that were well informed and effectively communicated. I was censored for no other reason than I was ruffling the narcissistic feathers of those who had the ability to silence me.


You REALLY need to read the rules, because this post is "publicly questioning administration" which is yet another rules violation.

This is the only warning you will receive. You really need to read the rules before making another post.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:19 AM
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Insufferable arrogance.

I find it extremely ironic that you accuse others of narcissism after your preening self-evaluation of how well informed and effective a communicator.

Let me clue you in on a little theological insight from Romans 1.

One of the steps down the road to perversion is worshipping the creature more than the Creator.

The reason many homosexuals go that direction is that they are so in love with themselves that they become attracted to a mirror image of what they are, rather than the opposite gender.

You are a textbook case.
Acknowledging that my thoughts were effectively communicated is far from excessive self-admiration (as seen in narcissistic behavior). What does resemble narcissistic behavior is the belief by some participants, including the administration, that their views are somehow more valid than mine, that they are willing to take advantage of their ability to censor my viewpoint in an attempt to achieve their own end, their apparant lack of empathy for anyone with a differing opinion or life experience, as well as their belief that they are "special" and have some divine right to inflict judgment and damnation on another human being.

Textbook case?

PS - I am not a fan of my own reflection. Honest.
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:20 AM
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May I ask what rule I violated? Also, if there are two points to be discussed, and the Administration of this website can obviouslly only support one of the two views, wouldn't the opposing viewpoint automatically be promoting something contrary to what the Administration supports? How can silencing the promotion of an opposing viewpoint provide for a healthy and productive discussion? Are you going to censor/edit a comment made by a Trinitarian because their comments are promoting a Trinity?

The truth is pretty evident. The Administration, as well as others who were participating in this discussion, were uneasy with the fact that someone had legitimate arguments that were well informed and effectively communicated. I was censored for no other reason than I was ruffling the narcissistic feathers of those who had the ability to silence me.
Not to sound condescending or anything, but I thought you were leaving this forum? If you don't like the rules here, you have a choice to leave.

This is an Apostolic forum and I think it's laughable yet sad that you site the reasons above for admins 'going after you'.

You want to discuss a reason for your homosexuality that doesn't exist and even though tons and years of research was done, it was eventually unfounded. Your 'excuse' doesn't exist in spite of your insistence that it does. That makes for lack of honest discussion, which is fruitless to continue.

In addition, your parting words last night indicated to me and several others what your intentions were here in spite of your saying otherwise.

Brad, nobody is against you here. In fact, we pray that someday God will touch you and deliver you from this, because I believe that deep down, you believe homosexuality is wrong, but perhaps you feel that having no choice, there has to be a reason and you want to justify it.

Whether you go or stay, good luck in all you do, and keep seeking God for help.
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