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Old 12-09-2009, 02:52 PM
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a Lie believed by a Billion people is still a lie.

Numbers don't bring truth, if that was the case then we should all become catholics.

Elijah was the only one on Mt Carmel with truth.

Truth is usually not popular with the majority.
This is a popular refrain from those with an unpopular viewpoint. However, I am not so sure it is true. You refer to a single incident at a single point in time, but that says nothing about what is "Usually" the case.


Not only that but even if it were true having an unpopular viewpoint doesn't make it true. Hitler's views were unpopular on the world wide stage did that make his views true? People that believe little green men visit the President and direct our policy is not popular either.
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Old 12-09-2009, 02:58 PM
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a Lie believed by a Billion people is still a lie.

Numbers don't bring truth, if that was the case then we should all become catholics.

Elijah was the only one on Mt Carmel with truth.

Truth is usually not popular with the majority.
Great minds think alike....I was just about to bring up the Catholics....So many here have attacked the principles of the Apostolic faith but are proclaiming to be Apostolic...if I didn't believe in praying the rosary to Mary, confessing my sins to a man, etc etc. I wouldn't be argueing the point that good Catholics don't need to do all of those things...I would simply say I am not Catholic, not that I am Catholic but don't believe in all of those things!
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:02 PM
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Great minds think alike....I was just about to bring up the Catholics....So many here have attacked the principles of the Apostolic faith but are proclaiming to be Apostolic...if I didn't believe in praying the rosary to Mary, confessing my sins to a man, etc etc. I wouldn't be argueing the point that good Catholics don't need to do all of those things...I would simply say I am not Catholic, not that I am Catholic but don't believe in all of those things!
Catholicism is not the same as saying Apostolic.

Apostolics (Assuming you are referring to Jesus name folks) have a variety of views on everything from when and how one is saved to end time prophecy and everything in between.

No one here really believes that all of their views are truly Apostolic in that the first century Church held to all the beliefs they currently hold.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:14 PM
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Catholicism is not the same as saying Apostolic.

Apostolics (Assuming you are referring to Jesus name folks) have a variety of views on everything from when and how one is saved to end time prophecy and everything in between.

No one here really believes that all of their views are truly Apostolic in that the first century Church held to all the beliefs they currently hold.
Not sure about that Baron...Chrstianity may have differing views on everything including salvation but the term Apostolic is usually for those who believe in Acts 2:38 where salvation was preached on the day of Pentecost by Peter who was handed the keys to the kingdom....Jesus name baptism, infilling of the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues...seperation from the world....holiness living...maybe those who are not following these call themselves Christians but I don't understand how Apostolic if they don't believe in those things that the Apostolic Church preaches.....and I'm not talking about differences in length of sleeves, haircuts etc. I'm talking about the major points I made here. Salvation, baptism, Holy Ghost.....
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:22 PM
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Great minds think alike....I was just about to bring up the Catholics....So many here have attacked the principles of the Apostolic faith but are proclaiming to be Apostolic...if I didn't believe in praying the rosary to Mary, confessing my sins to a man, etc etc. I wouldn't be argueing the point that good Catholics don't need to do all of those things...I would simply say I am not Catholic, not that I am Catholic but don't believe in all of those things!
I don't think this is necessarily true. There is a difference between being born and raised Catholic / Jewish / Mormon / Baptist...etc. And being a practicing Catholic / Jew / Mormon / Baptist.

I think that is the case for some of the members here, they come from an Apostolic tradition...but therefore may consider themselves to still be Apostolic by default...though they aren't necessarily practicing or living that faith. That is probably more true of those who come from large Apostolic families.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:35 PM
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You guys a re killing me with all these fake accounts being created...lol

Not sure who you are accusing of having fake accounts, but the majority of them aren't "Fake" accounts.

It's about time there's been some more conservative posters show up to post. I mean the genuine ones, NOT the bored members who have decided to attempt to play games and masquerade as ultra conservatives. The general membership of the forum has been around long enough to tell the difference.

The forum has been leaning far to one side for way too long. I think it's great that there are some representatives here who are more conservative in belief. It just might make for some great discussion like used to happen here if people stop continuously trying to derail any type of discussion with comments and accusations about people having fake accounts.
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Old 12-09-2009, 03:47 PM
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I don't think this is necessarily true. There is a difference between being born and raised Catholic / Jewish / Mormon / Baptist...etc. And being a practicing Catholic / Jew / Mormon / Baptist.

I think that is the case for some of the members here, they come from an Apostolic tradition...but therefore may consider themselves to still be Apostolic by default...though they aren't necessarily practicing or living that faith. That is probably more true of those who come from large Apostolic families.
I understand what you are saying but being Apostolic isn't being born into a faith...it's being born again. Being baptized isn't to join the faith, it's for the remission of sin. I've seen the things that you are speaking of here and I can't consider someone to be of the Apostolic faith if they aren't practicing or living it...it's what the Apostolic faith is all about...an experience, not a religion....and to experience it you must practice it...being born Apostolic doesn't save you....you must step forward and receive. The other faiths you mentioned, the are born into the faith and "saved" by its doctrine.
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I understand what you are saying but being Apostolic isn't being born into a faith...it's being born again. Being baptized isn't to join the faith, it's for the remission of sin. I've seen the things that you are speaking of here and I can't consider someone to be of the Apostolic faith if they aren't practicing or living it...it's what the Apostolic faith is all about...an experience, not a religion....and to experience it you must practice it...being born Apostolic doesn't save you....you must step forward and receive. The other faiths you mentioned, the are born into the faith and "saved" by its doctrine.
Modern Apostolics are descendants from the "Oneness" movement in the early 20th century. If you want to go back to the old paths (1920's) then Apostolics are anyone who believes the Oneness doctrine. After that, opinions go all over the map!
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