Apostolic Feminists

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I understand what you are saying, I just choose to never use it for leverage.

Why not if you are both playing? After you're married long enough you know and you just play it.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Hahahahahahahahaha! He probably was!

No way, just like you said earlier it is innate in dudes...Both women and men need to be taught the finer points of romance and true love...the ungodly flesh in us wants something animal...maturity and training and the Holy Ghost helps us to take the proper and holy steps necessary to fulfill that need in the marital context

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Why not if you are both playing? After you're married long enough you know and you just play it.

We have two different subjects going on here.

To address this one - I just don't agree with it. I think you play, you have fun, you flirt with your husband, but you should never use it (sex) to "get what you want" or "get your way."

Is that what you are saying?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

No way, just like you said earlier it is innate in dudes...Both women and men need to be taught the finer points of romance and true love...the ungodly flesh in us wants something animal...maturity and training and the Holy Ghost helps us to take the proper and holy steps necessary to fulfill that need in the marital context

Really? My husband isn't mature yet.

Seriously, I think romance and true love are still included in the animal part - or rather - the unrefined. I think a women kind of likes that to linger a bit over time.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jekyll

No way, just like you said earlier it is innate in dudes...Both women and men need to be taught the finer points of romance and true love...the ungodly flesh in us wants something animal...maturity and training and the Holy Ghost helps us to take the proper and holy steps necessary to fulfill that need in the marital context

This is what we strive for.....

I think explaining things to the young people as JS has is very beneficial though, don't you?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

We have two different subjects going on here.

To address this one - I just don't agree with it. I think you play, you have fun, you flirt with your husband, but you should never use it (sex) to "get what you want" or "get your way."

Is that what you are saying?

No, I don't think you should offer sex to get what you want. It's cheap, but fun if you are playing like you are. If he's game, I'm game. That's what I mean.

[Felicity]

I guess I'm a little less sophisticated than some of you ladies here and don't have the cosmopolitan experience you all have had. I've led a fairly sheltered life. None of the women I've known have acted like this i.e. using their femininity to manipulate men (in a negative sense) into getting what they want.

I never saw this kind of behavior modeled by my mother or my sisters or my grandmother.

Never saw it modeled by my close friends -- either before marriage or after it. Neither I nor my close friends acted this way (intentional manipulation to draw some guy into relationship with us).

Haven't seen it modeled by most of the women I know in any kind of personal way. Like I said the women in my social circle which was the church circle didn't act that way. It was never even thought of by myself --- my mind certainly doesn't work that way. My husband would agree.

Our opinions are formed by our own realm of experience. Guess your realms of experience are outside of mine. All I knew was church, loving God and living for Him. And the friends I've hung with over the years were the same.

[HeavenlyOne]

There are some things I don't want mental pics of about my friends.

The above posts are along that line.......LOL!



You girls are funny.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

There are some things I don't want mental pics of about my friends.

The above posts are along that line.......LOL!



You girls are funny.

Read the words and don't visualize - that's the key!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Felicity

I guess I'm a little less sophisticated than some of you ladies here and don't have the cosmopolitan experience you all have had. I've led a fairly sheltered life. None of the women I've known have acted like this i.e. using their femininity to manipulate men (in a negative sense) into getting what they want.

I never saw this kind of behavior modeled by my mother or my sisters or my grandmother.

Never saw it modeled by my close friends -- either before marriage or after it. Neither I nor my close friends acted this way (intentional manipulation to draw some guy into relationship with us).

Haven't seen it modeled by most of the women I know in any kind of personal way. Like I said the women in my social circle which was the church circle didn't act that way. It was never even thought of by myself --- my mind certainly doesn't work that way. My husband would agree.

Our opinions are formed by our own realm of experience. Guess your realms of experience are outside of mine. All I knew was church, loving God and living for Him. And the friends I've hung with over the years were the same.

I saw my mother flirt - tremendously - with my father and him back. They were so cute!

You are right - our opinions are formed by our own realm of experience.

If you need any tips - PM me. J/K!!!!!