Bishop SC Johnson

[warrior]

See it is really sad how you refuse to acknowledge the WORD of GOD. You are more concerned with my interpretation rather accepting the plain truth written in scripture.

It seems more important to believe an old teaching that only goes as far as those who believe that BJ was right in everything he taught. I know it is hard to believe it, but even the Bible proves this particular teaching of No Son of God in Heaven Now wrong.

[sis_perez]

You say acknowledge the word of God? You still have not responded to the first question I asked you. Now why did God said he didnt know no other God? What needs to be interpreted? The scriptures that you brought is making God out to be a liar. God also said that he was the Lord. He said there would be no God after him. He also said besides him, there is no savior. Now I acknowledge that God said all this. Do you?? Who saved the world- Jesus or God? What is needed to be interpreted except that man can be ignorant? Now exactly how many Gods are there? Since you can only seem to bring those scriptures, which I do not deny, please at least answer that.

[sis_perez]

Warrior, I dont understand how that flesh and blood man that died, and who is supposed to be the redeemer and savior, and True God or what ever else he may be called can be in heaven making intersessions with the Father, and the Father, who knowest all things claims to not know any other God. How can this be? You have to bring a few more scriptures or something for me to understand this. Can anyone help out with this? Please??

[warrior]

Originally Posted by sis_perez

You say acknowledge the word of God? You still have not responded to the first question I asked you. Now why did God said he didnt know no other God? What needs to be interpreted? The scriptures that you brought is making God out to be a liar. God also said that he was the Lord. He said there would be no God after him. He also said besides him, there is no savior. Now I acknowledge that God said all this. Do you?? Who saved the world- Jesus or God? What is needed to be interpreted except that man can be ignorant? Now exactly how many Gods are there? Since you can only seem to bring those scriptures, which I do not deny, please at least answer that.

Those scriptures are making Bishop Johnson out to be the liar not God. Jesus never said there No Son of God in Heaven Now, Bishop Johnson said that. Just you know, my interpretation of those scriptures are not important. The word of God goes against the very teaching of No Son of God in Heaven Now.

Where are the scriptures that support BJ's teaching of No Son of God in Heaven Now?

[Barb]

Originally Posted by sis_perez

Warrior, I dont understand how that flesh and blood man that died, and who is supposed to be the redeemer and savior, and True God or what ever else he may be called can be in heaven making intersessions with the Father, and the Father, who knowest all things claims to not know any other God. How can this be? You have to bring a few more scriptures or something for me to understand this. Can anyone help out with this? Please??

I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but this is my understanding...

God is Spirit...Jn. 4:24

Spirit could not die on the Cross...

Because without the shedding of blood there is no remission (Heb. 9:22), and because Spirit had no Blood to shed or back to bear stripes for healing...

The Spirit of the Most High prepared Himself a body, and that body was the Person of Jesus Christ...flesh and blood...

For in Him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily...Col. 2:9

That body died, rose again, and in His glorified state sits on the right hand, meaning all power and authority is IN Him.

That's why we pray in Jesus Name and Baptize in Jesus Name...

In John's vision of heaven he saw ONE throne and ONE sitting on the throne.

John could not see a Spirit, but he could see ONE sitting, and that ONE is Jesus Christ.

That's not two Gods...that's Oneness!!

Jesus IS God manifested in flesh...I Tim. 3:16

[Barb]

Originally Posted by sis_perez

Barb, I was just wondering why did someone supposedly teach BJ - according to some of the posts- and yet, I could not figure out why no one ever defeated the man.
What make you think I am so hard against Bishop Lawson? I dont even know him. I didnt even sit under the Ministry of BJ. But when something dont sound too right, I like to try to make some sense of it.

Why is it so important to you to prove that no man defeated him?!

And what makes me think you are hard against Bishop Lawson?! LOL!! Your posts...!!

Originally Posted by sis_perez

Barb, Bishop Johnson gave bible for what he preached. Others that taught and preached lies and could not find what they preached in the bible. Now because Bishop J made mincemeat out of all that stood before him, you call that silliness? The bible is right.

Please read my posts carefully...

I was speaking to the notion that he, or any man, has an obligation to get locked into a debate or answer a request as silliness...read carefully, Sis. P...

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Barb

I'm not the brightest bulb in the chandelier, but this is my understanding...

God is Spirit...Jn. 4:24

Spirit could not die on the Cross...

Because without the shedding of blood there is no remission (Heb. 9:22), and because Spirit had no Blood to shed or back to bear stripes for healing...

The Spirit of the Most High prepared Himself a body, and that body was the Person of Jesus Christ...flesh and blood...

For in Him (Jesus) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily...Col. 2:9

That body died, rose again, and in His glorified state sits on the right hand, meaning all power and authority is IN Him.

That's why we pray in Jesus Name and Baptize in Jesus Name...

In John's vision of heaven he saw ONE throne and ONE sitting on the throne.

John could not see a Spirit, but he could see ONE sitting, and that ONE is Jesus Christ.

That's not two Gods...that's Oneness!!

Jesus IS God manifested in flesh...I Tim. 3:16

Now you have gone and done it made me say AMEN to a woman!
Help me Jesus.

[sis_perez]

So Warrior, as Barb said all power is in Him. In who? The Father or the son. I am trying to figure out somehing here. Who is Jesus? Is he the Lord or is he God? I guess you are proving the Father to be a pretty good liar. So, since there is 2, then which one is coming? And since John could not see a Spirit, then what he saw was Flesh and Blood according to what you seem to believe.
Now pay attention to what was wrote here" That body died, rose again, and in His glorified state sits on the right hand, meaning, all power and authority is IN Him. Wow. I asked someone before about that sitting on the right hand and since sitting on the right hand - means "Power " and then the Bible clearly says that Flesh and Blood cannot inherit the kingdon of God, well that must mean that John and Thomas saw the same one. Thomas answered and said "My Lord and My God". Cant you see there is no son in Heaven? Aint nobody up there but the father. The son Died!!! He died. God himself got back into that body. That is why he can talk the way he talks. He calls himself Lord. He calls himself God. He speaks of what he was as if it is now, in which he WAS the son. The Bible says he was in the world, Right- that was the son in the world right? The world was made by him, we all know that God Made the world , and it says the World know him not. Who was it that was in the World that the folks didnt know that also calls himself God which the bible says " Was manifested in the Flesh? And Mr God said he didnt know no other God. Well, you agree that God lied when he said that he didnt know no other God? Is God a Liar?

[Scott Hutchinson]

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[Scott Hutchinson]

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