The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits

Originally Posted by Felicity

I don't think completely pointless.

I find there is always something said in these discussions that has merit and value and that offers a perspective I may not have seen before.

Not me. Same dead horsre, different bat.

Originally Posted by Felicity

Ahhhh yes Bro. Theo! But when is one born of the Spirit? This is the pivotal question.

Glad you asked Sis.

Jesus took care of this question straightway...

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now if you break it down in the Greek you'll find that Jesus wasn't speaking of the wind at all, but rather the Spirit. He wasn't speaking of a sound, but a voice. This reference is clearly that of speaking in tongues and becomes obvious as we witness that which we do, starting in Acts and even now, still going in the present. God Bless, Theo.

[SDG]

ah the wind is the Spirit .. thanks for the clarification.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

ah the wind is the Spirit .. thanks for the clarification.

Your Royal Smarminess

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Your Royal Smarminess

I am but a humble servant.

[Felicity]

Originally Posted by Theophilus

Glad you asked Sis.

Jesus took care of this question straightway...

John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Now if you break it down in the Greek you'll find that Jesus wasn't speaking of the wind at all, but rather the Spirit. He wasn't speaking of a sound, but a voice. This reference is clearly that of speaking in tongues and becomes obvious as we witness that which we do, starting in Acts and even now, still going in the present. God Bless, Theo.

Yes, I've heard that interpretation but I can't accept it. There's nothing in that Scripture to connect the blowing of the wind with tongue talking.

The wind of the Spirit blows where it will and this is for sure. It blew on me when I was 6 years of age and there was immediate response from me in that my mind, heart, will and emotions turned to God in belief and repentance. However, there were no tongues at that point.

They came 9 years later!

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

They know John 3 but dont go beyond Acts .... 1 John 5:

1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is begotten by God, and everyone who loves the father loves (also) the one begotten by him.
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In this way we know that we love the children of God when we love God and obey his commandments.
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For the love of God is this, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome,
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for whoever is begotten by God conquers the world. And the victory that conquers the world is our faith.
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Who (indeed) is the victor over the world but the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

I go beyond Acts daily, this does no violence to Jesus' teachings. I all works together..if you believe.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Yes, I've heard that interpretation but I don't accept it.

There's nothing in that Scripture to connect the blowing of the wind with tongue talking.

The wind of the Spirit blows where it will and this is for sure. It blew on me when I was 6 years of age and there was immediate response from me in that my mind, heart, will and emotions turned to God in belief and repentance. However, there were no tongues at that point.

They came 9 years later!

Great testimony ... nothing like being born of God.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Theophilus

I go beyond Acts daily, this does no violence to Jesus' teachings. I all works together..if you believe.

You're right ... so why is that folks get popped in the head as they seek the baptism of the Holy Ghost ...

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

You're right ... so why is that folks get popped in the head as they seek the baptism of the Holy Ghost ...

Or their eardrums blown from people screaming in them at the altar...