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07-22-2017, 11:01 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Bro, you are pretty uneducated about most of the topics you wade into. Did you ever answer Brother Blume? Anyway, the Power of the Gospel is all anyone needs, we have no further instruction to give from the BIBLE. So if you feel the walls closing in, call on Jesus to lift you up out from those walls. 
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07-22-2017, 11:03 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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The Ancient Greek physician Claudius Galen believed that almost all ills originated in out-of-balance humors, or substances, in the body. In the 1600s, English physician Thomas Willis (pictured here) adapted this approach to mental disorders, arguing that an internal biochemical relationship was behind mental disorders. Bleeding, purging, and even vomiting were thought to help correct those imbalances and help heal physical and mental illness.
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Hippocrates and Socrates believed the same thing.
Plato rejected the those ideas.
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07-22-2017, 11:04 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
Every scripture and biblical concept used to stand against the use of mental health professionals can just as easily be applied to stand against the use of all medical professionals.
This is what I mean about desiring consistency.
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07-22-2017, 11:06 AM
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07-22-2017, 11:17 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Every scripture and biblical concept used to stand against the use of mental health professionals can just as easily be applied to stand against the use of all medical professionals.
This is what I mean about desiring consistency.
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Medical care, of course. The Samaritan is described by Jesus as giving medical treatment to the Judean who was near death, you have a woman with an issue of blood who sought physicians she also didn't have health care and ended up broke. Having no further resource she sought out Jesus. Yet, psychotherapy treatments and methods are found nowhere in the Bible. Why? Because the Gospel is that treatment and method. Jesus is our only hope, and provision. He gives us a renewing of the mind, he we reject Him we can be turned over to a reprobate mind. Votivesoul did a wonderful job pointing that out.
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JD, the Bible is to be viewed in a holistic way, to be able to understand what the apostles taught. I posted the above to you, and if you would like to read it again please be my guest. People who advocate psychotherapies mingled with Christianity is leading people into a ditch. Be consistent with explaining how the apostles and Jesus handled mental issues. You have over 2,000 years of Jesus Christ and His apostles teaching, but in only less than a 100 years it needs a revamp from the psychology? All I want is consistency, so please show where the new advent of psychology fixed Christianity if it didn't fix it, then why did God wait so long for the help to appear from man? Again show where the disciples or JESUS needed pyschological help from anyone. Where did they fail without it. .
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07-22-2017, 11:26 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Have you ever had a flashback?
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Yes, it's called MEMORY.
Get off it
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07-22-2017, 11:34 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Yes, it's called MEMORY.
Get off it
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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07-22-2017, 11:39 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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Aquila, since you are a believer, do you always suggest a vet go only to counselors that share the same truth you profess?
The Bible warns against taking advice from those outside the faith.
Psalms 1:1....Oh, the joys of those who do not follow the advice of the wicked, or stand around with sinners, or join in with mockers.
So, if a Dr is not Born Again, would you say they are helping these vets?
What constitutes "help" to you?
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No. I'd point a vet to Jesus.
In my situation it took six years of praying for healing as my symptoms became worse. I found myself shopping for the right gun to use on myself, and a friend asked what was wrong because they could see that something was seriously wrong. For a brief moment I had clarity (small miracle). I knew I needed to at least try to get help. I called Employee Care, a service provided by my work. I told them about what I was going through, and they recommend counseling. I had boundaries. I wanted a male counselor who was a Christian. When I met with my counselor, I made it clear that I wanted no medications. I just needed to talk and to find a tool, a way, to manage my episodes as I continue to seek healing. He was very understanding and we opened in prayer. First two or three sessions we just talked. I shared my life experiences and he sat and listened, took notes, asked questions, and gave a couple observations. Then on maybe the third or fourth secession he explained PTSD in more detail. He then introduced me to EMDR. No medications, no deep hypnosis, or hocus pocus. One simply follows the therapists fingers, or a light, back and forth, simulating the natural motions of rapid eye movement during REM sleep. This stimulates the very same regions of the brain that are active during REM sleep that are in use as the brain processes memories. Since the brain continues to attempt to process and categorize traumatic memories over and over, this helps to activate the necessary regions of the brain while awake so that one can consciously put the memories into context for proper processing, and allows one to also associate more positive affirmations in order to overwrite repetitive negative emotions. I was having flashbacks almost every day, after the first couple sessions, I was going days without symptoms. I was back in control of most of my thoughts again. After a total of maybe 8 sessions I wasn't having symptoms, and I could sense when a flashback was about to start. My counselor said that my progress was extremely positive and he saw no need to continue regular sessions. He also equipped me with how to self administer the technique so that I could manage symptoms as necessary.
It isn't a cure. It's only a tool to relieve symptoms.
I still believe Jesus will heal me. But until then, I'm in far greater control of my condition.
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07-22-2017, 11:46 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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People usually tackle this subject by believing the psychobabble of the pyschological community. In the youth Bible study this came up and two young brothers who were attending colleges mentioned that in their psych ed they were told to do self diagnosis. Everyone had discovered they all had some sort of mental illness. So, let's follow the money if you have an illness, which is never "really" cured, the PROFESSIONAL ends up making a lot of ice cream money. Flash backs commonly known as memory, or intrusive thoughts come in all shapes and sizes. Can trigger all sorts of thoughts and feelings. Sounds, smells, places, even a song, can trigger these EMOTIONS. This subject gets murkier and murkier as you sink into it. Aquila is just an advocate change agent who sadly isn't on a payroll. But has been brainwashed by a certain political portion of our culture. .
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07-22-2017, 11:49 AM
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Re: Psychiatry An Industry Of Death Full Length
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The Ancient Greek physician Claudius Galen believed that almost all ills originated in out-of-balance humors, or substances, in the body. In the 1600s, English physician Thomas Willis (pictured here) adapted this approach to mental disorders, arguing that an internal biochemical relationship was behind mental disorders. Bleeding, purging, and even vomiting were thought to help correct those imbalances and help heal physical and mental illness.
Whose report will you believe?
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Anyone who doesn't believe that hormonal fluctuations and imbalances effect behavior and thought processes has obviously never lived with a woman for longer than a month. Lol
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