Why I Am A Futurist - Page 41

Sean · #**401** 03-01-2015, 07:29 PM

You guys be callin' Gods' people a ho!(Israel, beloved, elect)....28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

I say the Catholic Church is the GREAT HO!

Bowas · #**402** 03-01-2015, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

You guys be callin' Gods' people a ho!(Israel, beloved, elect)....28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

I say the Catholic Church is the GREAT HO!

You're not serious are you about the Catholic Church?

By the way. Please notice who is calling Israel the harlot. It is not anyone on this forum. The Bible says, "The LORD said...backsliding Israel...has played the harlot."

Jer 3:6 The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Have you seen that which backsliding Israel has done? she has gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there has played the harlot.

shazeep · #**403** 03-01-2015, 07:43 PM

alright then

mfblume · #**404** 03-01-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ha well, me too; but let's admit that Babylon was once...Babylon; then perhaps we might get to (by...dragging...ourselves...oh...so...slowly...) some deeper, essential truth.

Everything in Revelation is from a picture in the Old Testament that grants insight into what the rest of the New Testament already stated in plain terms. I think. For example, JESUS is the lamb whose blood redeems. That is from Passover. It intensifies the purpose of his sacrifice..

Bowas · #**405** 03-01-2015, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Everything in Revelation is from a picture in the Old Testament that grants insight into what the rest of the New Testament already stated in plain terms. I think. For example, JESUS is the lamb whose blood redeems. That is from Passover. It intensifies the purpose of his sacrifice..

I taught Sunday School this morning and brought out that the book of Revelation has 404 verses, of which, 278 of them make a direct reference to the Old Testament and there are over 800 allusions or indirect references to the Old Testament as well!

And that there are 7958 verses in the New Testament and there are upwards of 4105 quotations and references to the Old Testament.

By us not incorporating the Old Testament into our conclusions, we will not totally understand what is being conveyed.

I then presented the "living waters" scriptures from the Old Testament, Zech. 14:8, into the New Testament by what Jesus said in John 4:7-14 and 7:37-39, tied it into the day of Pentecost and capped it with the same reference found in Revelation 21:6.

I had many people come up to me afterwards and said they never realized that before and thanked me for showing them, in my example, how to use the Bible to confirm the Bible.

Sean · #**406** 03-01-2015, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

You're not serious are you about the Catholic Church?

By the way. Please notice who is calling Israel the harlot. It is not anyone on this forum. The Bible says, "The LORD said...backsliding Israel...has played the harlot."

Jer 3:6 The LORD said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Have you seen that which backsliding Israel has done? she has gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there has played the harlot.

Yes there were some hos' in Israel, just like the hos' in the church....Rev 2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

A ho is a ho, whether it's Israel or the church, but NOT ALL are hos'.

mfblume · #**407** 03-01-2015, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

I taught Sunday School this morning and brought out that the book of Revelation has 404 verses, of which, 278 of them make a direct reference to the Old Testament and there are over 800 allusions or indirect references to the Old Testament as well!

And that there are 7958 verses in the New Testament and there are upwards of 4105 quotations and references to the Old Testament.

By us not incorporating the Old Testament into our conclusions, we will not totally understand what is being conveyed.

I then presented the "living waters" scriptures from the Old Testament, Zech. 14:8, into the New Testament by what Jesus said in John 4:7-14 and 7:37-39, tied it into the day of Pentecost and capped it with the same reference found in Revelation 21:6.

I had many people come up to me afterwards and said they never realized that before and thanked me for showing them, in my example, how to use the Bible to confirm the Bible.

That is just how the bible is meant to be handled. Exactly.

mfblume · #**408** 03-01-2015, 08:20 PM

Jerusalem, not some in it, was a harlot. Ezekiel 16. The city. Not some people in it. God saw the population as one harlot.

Sean · #**409** 03-01-2015, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

I taught Sunday School this morning and brought out that the book of Revelation has 404 verses, of which, 278 of them make a direct reference to the Old Testament and there are over 800 allusions or indirect references to the Old Testament as well!

And that there are 7958 verses in the New Testament and there are upwards of 4105 quotations and references to the Old Testament.

By us not incorporating the Old Testament into our conclusions, we will not totally understand what is being conveyed.

I then presented the "living waters" scriptures from the Old Testament, Zech. 14:8, into the New Testament by what Jesus said in John 4:7-14 and 7:37-39, tied it into the day of Pentecost and capped it with the same reference found in Revelation 21:6.

I had many people come up to me afterwards and said they never realized that before and thanked me for showing them, in my example, how to use the Bible to confirm the Bible.

You wrecked them all...repent!

thephnxman · #**410** 03-01-2015, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowas

I taught Sunday School this morning and brought out that the book of Revelation has 404 verses, of which, 278 of them make a direct reference to the Old Testament and there are over 800 allusions or indirect references to the Old Testament as well!

And that there are 7958 verses in the New Testament and there are upwards of 4105 quotations and references to the Old Testament.

By us not incorporating the Old Testament into our conclusions, we will not totally understand what is being conveyed.

I then presented the "living waters" scriptures from the Old Testament, Zech. 14:8, into the New Testament by what Jesus said in John 4:7-14 and 7:37-39, tied it into the day of Pentecost and capped it with the same reference found in Revelation 21:6.

I had many people come up to me afterwards and said they never realized that before and thanked me for showing them, in my example, how to use the Bible to confirm the Bible.

Yes! Understanding the Old Testament in the light of the New Testament.