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09-29-2017, 12:34 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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God is inside Jesus today. The full indwelling causes this effect. Jesus as seen in Rev 3, has a God while in heaven. This means Jesus, though fully indwelled, is allowed to be an independent man that speaks to and of his God. |
So, when did this "indwelling" take place?
And how is it different than when we receive the Holy Ghost?
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09-29-2017, 12:38 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Sean - your answer is not totally spelled out in scripture, I believe.
However, I believe Jesus was both God and Man.
The Bible states that he was of the lineage of David, so he had that from Man.
However, the Holy Ghost is the one who overshadowed Mary so he was also from God.
This is not my field of study, in the Word, as I (like Paul) am determined to know nothing among you save Jesus Christ and him crucified.
I am far more focused on finding lost sheep, than debating with ones already in the fold.
But, I do have some further questions for you.
You state that you do believe in One God and in Acts 2:38.
Now let me state what I understand you also believe about Jesus.
Please correct or confirm.
Jesus was all man until he rose again.
Then he became God. Not sure at what point you believe this occurred.
So, is there one God in heaven now or two?
God the Father (a spirit) and Jesus with a human body? |
And yes, you are correct about my position. Jesus became and declared himself God after the resurrection. Prior to that, he would not even let himself be called good by a man.
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09-29-2017, 12:49 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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It explained by Jesus in John. He said they will make their abode in us.
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"They"? So, you're saying that God Almighty and the human Jesus Christ enters into a man or a woman when they get the Holy Ghost?
I see in Acts 2 where the disciples received God's SPIRIT, but I do not see them receiving a 33-year-old Jewish male into their bodies.
Please, give us scripture that says a believer literally receives a human body into them.
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09-29-2017, 12:56 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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And yes, you are correct about my position. Jesus became and declared himself God after the resurrection. Prior to that, he would not even let himself be called good by a man.
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But He did tell the Pharisees, "Before Abraham was, I am."
He was claiming omnipresence not only in space but in time as well...hence the claim to currently exist in the time before Abraham.
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09-29-2017, 01:02 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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He was God at the resurrection meeting Mary. He was made a quickening spirit at that time.
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God....
The Apostle Thomas was the first to declare Jesus God after the resurrection.
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Jesus was God at the post resurrection meeting with Mary?
Thomas called Jesus His God?
Jesus told Mary not to touch Him, because He had not yet ascended to the FATHER? So, logically Sean, you believe in two persons? Each who are gods? Which make two persons two gods? They dwell in us through the vehicle of the Holy Ghost? Doesn't that make a total of three?
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09-29-2017, 01:42 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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And yes, you are correct about my position. Jesus became and declared himself God after the resurrection. Prior to that, he would not even let himself be called good by a man.
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Jesus did not tell that man NOT to call Him "good." He asked the man why he called Him "good." Look at it here:
Mark 10:17-18
17....And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18....And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God. This is not unlike what God did in the Garden.
Genesis 3:9....And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?
Now, if you believe God is omniscient, then you have to believe He knew the location of Adam. So, why did God ask Adam where he was? God did not ask to get the answer; He asked so that Adam would get the answer. God asked: "Adam, where are you in relation to serving me?" Adam replied: "God, I am naked because I disobeyed."
So, Jesus asking the man why he called Him "God" was not Jesus telling him not to address Him as such. Rather it was Jesus asking the man to ask himself if he believed he was God.
Do we have Scripture for such a thing? Yep, sure do:
Hebrews 11:6....But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
You've got to believe He is God, then you receive from that faith. The man had a request of Jesus. He was asked if he really did believe He is God, then the man proceeded to ask for that which he sought from God.
Sean, to understand your Bible you have to be able to rightly divide the word of truth. Your little out of context passages certainly miss that command.
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09-29-2017, 01:47 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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18....And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
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Jesus describes God....
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
How can you not see it, TK?
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09-29-2017, 01:49 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
Jesus stopped the man from calling him good.
He then corrected him that God(which he describes as Spirit) is the only one that is called good.
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09-29-2017, 01:53 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Jesus describes God....
24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
How can you not see it, TK?
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Why did he not say this?....
God is a Spirit /man: and they that worship ME must worship ME in spirit and in truth.
Like I have been saying, these verses bugged me to openly accept them and quit reading in my former H/U mindset along time ago.
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09-29-2017, 01:57 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Jesus was God at the post resurrection meeting with Mary?
Thomas called Jesus His God?
Jesus told Mary not to touch Him, because He had not yet ascended to the FATHER? So, logically Sean, you believe in two persons? Each who are gods? Which make two persons two gods? They dwell in us through the vehicle of the Holy Ghost? Doesn't that make a total of three?
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Yes, a thousand times yes....2 persons.
One inside the other.(not side by side).
Now the immortal person is fully indwelled, bodily by his God.
This means that every "Spirit molecule" of God is inside the body of His created glorified, human(immortal now), son. 
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