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08-24-2011, 09:06 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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[B]As the old black preacher preached on the radio - "You will slide straight to hell on the thin dime you steal outta God's Dollar!"[/B
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Wasn't that Bishop S. C. Johnson?
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08-24-2011, 09:09 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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YOU LOST so GIVE IT UP!
You guys are so pitiful to keep perpetrating this deception on poor ignorant illiterate people. You lost your little challenge and you won't shut up about everybody on here that proved you wrong. You twist the Word of God because you are stingy and cheep and don't believe anything is required of you. That is the Baptist way but Calvinism does not rule in the Apostolic Church.
You have not, can not and will not show where the Bible says, Tithing has ended, Thou Shalt Not Tithe, Do Not Tithe, The Tithe is no longer HOLY unto the Lord, The Tithe is a scheme to get your hard earned money or any such thing.
Simply - You LOST so go preach your false doctrine to your Baptist One Saved, Always Saved, Unconditional Eternal Security, Give God your Heart and the Preacher your hand, Be baptized in the Baptist Church and you can kill your neighbor and all his family and be shot dead and go straight to heaven! Praying for your salvation and the Revelation of God's Word to you.
You guys are a bad joke!
TITHERS ARE WINNERS and stingy, selfish, thieves and robbers are LOSERS!
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My goodness Brother you're something else. Are you fearful of losing something?
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08-24-2011, 09:22 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
I am not sure who it was that preached that - but I thought it was pretty good! LOL
Sliding to hell on a thin dime!
And no, I am not afraid of losing anything - I just hate false doctrine and liars!
These guys made a challenge - they lost then they keep bringing it back up when they lost the challenge HANDS DOWN! - Why in the world would I lose something? LOL
I am a TITHER and You Can't LOSE with the Stuff I Use! ROFL!!!!!!!!
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08-24-2011, 09:34 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
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I am not sure who it was that preached that - but I thought it was pretty good! LOL
Sliding to hell on a thin dime!
And no, I am not afraid of losing anything - I just hate false doctrine and liars!
These guys made a challenge - they lost then they keep bringing it back up when they lost the challenge HANDS DOWN! - Why in the world would I lose something? LOL
I am a TITHER and You Can't LOSE with the Stuff I Use! ROFL!!!!!!!!
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Was there a poll taken on who won or lost? Maybe that would cool things down.
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08-24-2011, 09:52 PM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
A POLL??? ROFL!!!!!!! Those guys can't TELL the truth! They made a challenge and could not give ONE scripture out of 66 books of the Holy Bible where God abolished the TITHE or said Thou Shalt NOT TITHE. They just write a bunch of gobble de gook and expect people to go along with them because one of them goes to a big Baptist Church! CRAZY!
They were whipped and lost their own crazy false doctrine challenge and they just keep on like they want to convince people to rob God! It is pure idiocy! Let them go to their Baptist Church and stand up and challenge the Pastor & tell the people that THOU SHALT NOT TITHE!! I AM LAUGHING SO HARD!!!
They will be thrown out on their knuckle heads or arrested!!
I really don't have the time to deal with this as I am BUSY! It just riles me up that they keep on with this deception and they won't go to their own church and get up and challenge the ministry there.
I challenge you guys to go to a church that teaches Tithing and get up and rant on the pastor and see if you don't spend a night in jail for disrupting a public worship service.
You won't do it because - #1. You know it is not right and you are deceiving people. 2. You do not want to suffer the consequences of your deception!
I am just about done with it - but I just can't sit around and rest while these deceivers get on here and spread this horrible heresy!
Tithing is RIGHT and Not Tithing is WRONG!
Somebody is DECEIVED and it is NOT the TITHERS!
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08-24-2011, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
YOU LOST so GIVE IT UP!
You guys are so pitiful to keep perpetrating this deception on poor ignorant illiterate people. You lost your little challenge and you won't shut up about everybody on here that proved you wrong. You twist the Word of God because you are stingy and cheep and don't believe anything is required of you. That is the Baptist way but Calvinism does not rule in the Apostolic Church.
You have not, can not and will not show where the Bible says, Tithing has ended, Thou Shalt Not Tithe, Do Not Tithe, The Tithe is no longer HOLY unto the Lord, The Tithe is a scheme to get your hard earned money or any such thing.
Simply - You LOST so go preach your false doctrine to your Baptist One Saved, Always Saved, Unconditional Eternal Security, Give God your Heart and the Preacher your hand, Be baptized in the Baptist Church and you can kill your neighbor and all his family and be shot dead and go straight to heaven! Praying for your salvation and the Revelation of God's Word to you.
You guys are a bad joke!
TITHERS ARE WINNERS and stingy, selfish, thieves and robbers are LOSERS!
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I don't even think you know Christ. What good is a religion that is arrogant, self righteous, hateful and proud? James told us in chapter 3 what the source is of such wisdom.
PS- It doesn't matter how many places you've preached that doesn't make you right, nor will works save you, see matthew 7:14-23 and Eph 2:8-9. I know, I know, you already those scriptures. Big deal, the Pharisees memorized the entire old testament, if it doesn't change your heart what do you profit having read it?
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Last edited by Jason B; 08-24-2011 at 11:57 PM.
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08-25-2011, 12:16 AM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
I've never seen anyone be so belligerant and upset on this topic, of all topics...
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08-25-2011, 04:50 AM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
AtlantaBishop, I wish you would change your screen name, because your attitude is not that of a bishop. You know that the tithe is false doctrine, have been shown it to be false doctrine, yet still refuse to release this doctrine as false, instead holding to this Catholic invented doctrine as if it were a salvation issue. No, sir, you are the one who lost. You are the one whose antichrist Catholic doctrine has become a golden calf which has been made into hamburger.
You are a spiritual child on this matter, willing to berate and belittle people instead of openly discuss the issue. yes, I came back, and this time, I am not leaving. I am going to deal with this spiritual bully, and let you know, that your threats, your anger, your outrageous actions will no longer go unchallenged. You want to attack and name call, you will be challenged. Your spiritually abusive spirit will NOT be tolerated by people like me, people who have found grace, people who have found deliverance from spiritual abuse.
The tithe doctrine you teach is spiritually abusive, anti-Bible, antichrist, and is not in the Bible. history tells us it was invented by Roman Catholicism, and they even admit it. So, please, sir, go back to the papal bull of Rome and kiss his ring while we let people know that the tithe lie is not the truth.
You are wrong as sin on this issue. And I feel sorry for the blinded people who pay this tithe to your ministry under threat of a false curse which is not in the scripture. You need to repent.
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08-25-2011, 05:13 AM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
The truth is the tithing preachers preach tithing out of fear. They want to make sure their bills get paid, and then want to have that kind of power and control over the people of God. The Bible clearly states in 2Corinthians 9:6-7 that our giving should never be grudgingly or of compulsion. When these Romanesque priests get up to spout off their diatribe of curses on anyone who does not tithe, and blessings of finance on those who do, they simply are trying to bring authority where none is found, and become gods to men in the area of finance, and their attitudes show it.
I shall never forget being banned from the Preacher's Forum a couple of years back when I challenged this golden calf. One man asked me if I was a pastor, and when I stated I was not, he then said that I would not understand why they HAVE to preach tithing. I knew then as I do now that the tithe was NOT of faith, and as I deepened my study, I found that most of what preachers teach on this issue was and is a lie.
Malachi 3 and the curses thereof were related to the tithe of agricultural, which God instituted to support the Levitical priesthood under the Law. It had nothing to do with money, and the tithe still does not today.
Let me ask these tithe preachers something. Since the tithe related to the Temple, what Temple do we have now? Does not the scriptures declare that we are His Temple, or does this lie in your theology? Is your temple the sanctuary you paid millions of dollars for so you can have a big name while thousands of people in your city are hungry? I hope not.
The truth is, the tithe is a LIE, and this Atlanta(False)Bishop knows this. He has resorted to name calling simply because he has been proven a Benny Hinn fake and phony on this. He lost people. He now has to attack and belittle because he knows he is Roman in his doctrine without biblical foundation. No wonder he has to come on here and proudly boast of his title, because his doctrine proves him wrong.
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08-25-2011, 05:22 AM
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Re: Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church?
Funnyh thing is I don't remember him actually having a scriptural debate. He is like boxer dancing around like he won but hasn't even got in ring to fight.
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