Donald Trump Calls for Obama Birth Certificate

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I have no idea why he doesn't, BT, and I don't care. If the state of Hawaii issued him an official birth certificate, that's good enough for me, and the newspaper announcement seals the deal. In fact, I find the latter to be better evidence than the state sealed certificate. Unless better evidence to the contrary comes to light, I think this is a crazy issue in which to invest a lot of time and energy.

You said, "I have no idea why he doesn't, BT, and I don't care."

Well "I have no idea why he doesn't, MissB, and I do care."

So I guess that's where we are!

BT

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

You said, "I have no idea why he doesn't, BT, and I don't care."

Well "I have no idea why he doesn't, MissB, and I do care."

So I guess that's where we are!

BT

Well, by "I don't care", I mean that I don't think it's significant enough to matter. He may have reasons--and he may not have the original certificate. Again, even if that's true, it doesn't prove anything, as I'm quite positive that many, many Americans don't have their "original long forms." He may have simply been advised against it. He may think that saying he lacks the original form would incite the birther movement into a frenzy, and it's already pretty frantic.

In what way do you think it's significant? What do you think that says? Let's say you're right, and he's hiding the fact that he doesn't have the original form. He was still issued an official birth certificate by the state of Hawaii, and that makes it as good as mine or yours, legally speaking.

[canam]

Nope coadie rules,and no his bc isnt acceptable for everything, there are positions in Hawaii, that he cant hold, without a long form.Someone needs to find his Hawaii SS number, which he has to have had since his first job was there, and then he is toast. Btw smarty pants head in the sander, why does he have a Conn.SS number since he never lived there?Very sloppy on his part.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by canam

Nope coadie rules,and no his bc isnt acceptable for everything, there are positions in Hawaii, that he cant hold, without a long form.Someone needs to find his Hawaii SS number, which he has to have had since his first job was there, and then he is toast. Btw smarty pants head in the sander, why does he have a Conn.SS number since he never lived there?Very sloppy on his part.

Who are you calling a "smarty pants head in the sander", exactly?

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Well, by "I don't care", I mean that I don't think it's significant enough to matter. He may have reasons--and he may not have the original certificate. Again, even if that's true, it doesn't prove anything, as I'm quite positive that many, many Americans don't have their "original long forms." He may have simply been advised against it. He may think that saying he lacks the original form would incite the birther movement into a frenzy, and it's already pretty frantic.

In what way do you think it's significant? What do you think that says? Let's say you're right, and he's hiding the fact that he doesn't have the original form. He was still issued an official birth certificate by the state of Hawaii, and that makes it as good as mine or yours, legally speaking.

I'm really not into arguing all of the questions that are out there. But let me say this, the certificate that someone posted is not an original, has no signatures of doctors and can be forged by any numbers of individuals. I really don't care whether it's legal or not. I just want to know why Obama is allowed to be so arrogant in refusing to show or tell why he won't show what America has the right to see. If they put it in the constitution why shouldn't it be provable?

Again, my question, "Why doesn't OBAMA .... show his original BC or at least explain why not?"

Somebody tell me, "WHY!"

BT

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I have no idea why he doesn't, BT, and I don't care. If the state of Hawaii issued him an official birth certificate, that's good enough for me, and the newspaper announcement seals the deal. In fact, I find the latter to be better evidence than the state sealed certificate. Unless better evidence to the contrary comes to light, I think this is a crazy issue in which to invest a lot of time and energy.

It could be that I don't lurk around bulletin boards 24/7 and Been Thunkin' was just overwhelmed by the coadie/canam spirit of schtoopid so badly that he couldn't be a gentleman and wait at least 24 hours for a response.

And so, these einsteins deceive themselves into thinking they've got a point... a point that Been Thinking practically begged me to ignore because... well, because their points turned out to have been either a joke or an April Fools gag.

Why are you so afraid to respond to my post BT?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

So, let me see if I understand. There might be something on his birth certificate that he doesn't want anyone to see? So, just look over that even tho he doesn't have the guts to say that. Take up for the man! But I still think he owes America an answer. Just a simple answer to why!

Is that asking too much?

BT

I'm not "taking up for the man." Personally, I want to see him out of office in a landslide come 2012.

As for whether or not he "owes America an answer" on this one - I couldn't care less. I demand some answers on the budget, Libya, and a host of REAL issues but I'll probably not get those answers because the Birthers like Trump & Co. have successfully made the President's critics look sufficiently like clowns that the other side doesn't feel any pressure to answer for anything.

It is still his right to keep his medical records private. We all have that right... ironically, we all have that right unless Obama is successful in taking that right away from us... but still, it's a right that I want everyone to have.

[BeenThinkin]

Originally Posted by pelathais

It could be that I don't lurk around bulletin boards 24/7 and Been Thunkin' was just overwhelmed by the coadie/canam spirit of schtoopid so badly that he couldn't be a gentleman and wait at least 24 hours for a response.

And so, these einsteins deceive themselves into thinking they've got a point... a point that Been Thinking practically begged me to ignore because... well, because their points turned out to have been either a joke or an April Fools gag.

Why are you so afraid to respond to my post BT?

You are the one that won't answer my question. And you're smart remarks don't impress me! (And so, these einsteins )

I started to say a few other things but being as I'm speaking to someone smarter than me I won't waste mine or your time.

One final attempt..... "WHY DOESN'T OBAMA SHOW HIS ORIGINAL BC, SIGNED BY HIS DOCTORs", and settle this matter like no one else can?

That's all I've been asking, (with no answer from AFF's most brilliant), and your continual attempt to blame me for the videos about the comedy dinner and the April fool video must prove that not only can you not think for yourself but you can't read either! I had NOTHING to do with the aforementioned videos. Let me say it again so you maybe can grasp it.... "I had NOTHING to do with the aforementioned videos."

BT

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by BeenThinkin

I'm really not into arguing all of the questions that are out there. But let me say this, the certificate that someone posted is not an original, has no signatures of doctors and can be forged by any numbers of individuals. I really don't care whether it's legal or not. I just want to know why Obama is allowed to be so arrogant in refusing to show or tell why he won't show what America has the right to see. If they put it in the constitution why shouldn't it be provable?

Again, my question, "Why doesn't OBAMA .... show his original BC or at least explain why not?"

Somebody tell me, "WHY!"

BT

My Birth Certificate doesn't have any signatures on it. I posted it a while back. It looks just like Obama's but it's from a different state and obviously, has different info on it.

The burden is upon you. Prove that the Obama campaign has forged this document. There's a Pulitzer waiting for you if you can do so.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I'm not "taking up for the man." Personally, I want to see him out of office in a landslide come 2012.

As for whether or not he "owes America an answer" on this one - I couldn't care less. I demand some answers on the budget, Libya, and a host of REAL issues but I'll probably not get those answers because the Birthers like Trump & Co. have successfully made the President's critics look sufficiently like clowns that the other side doesn't feel any pressure to answer for anything.

It is still his right to keep his medical records private. We all have that right... ironically, we all have that right unless Obama is successful in taking that right away from us... but still, it's a right that I want everyone to have.

This is the document that I used to get my driver's license when I was 16 (an earlier copy), to get my U.S. Passport and to prove my status as a citizen when I registered to vote and when I was required to show it for employment purposes.

If I was running for President, this is the document that I have to show the Birthers who might question my citizenship. It is a legal document - though I have smeared out the personal info with Photoshop before posting this JPG image. The document itself is THE standard for legal documents even though mine is a bit more wrinkled than Obama's.