This forum needs a name change...

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Jon Alfaro

Is AFF apostolic?

AFF is a forum. It doesn't have a personality, contrary to what MB thinks -- an attitude, an ideology, a heartbeat, breath, nada... none of that.

So is your question are the people that log-on to AFF apostolic?

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Jon Alfaro

I agree and appreciate that you don't deny it applies here.


"as do"

It applies everywhere, here is no exception.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Jon Alfaro

Is AFF apostolic?

It's a forum. I'm not sure a forum can be apostolic.

However, there are thousands of members here - - the majority believe the apostolic message.

What is apostolic to you?

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

It's a forum. I'm not sure a forum can be apostolic.

However, there are thousands of members here - - the majority believe the apostolic message.

What is apostolic?

A beautiful question to work out for ages to come...

AFF is not a church. It's not the Lambs Book of Life. It's not even a soul. It's amoral. It has not conscience, no moral value, nada....

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

To retain any reasonable claim to be "Apostolic," this forum must hold to the following truths:

• There is One God. This one God reveals Himself as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  
• The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  
• Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  
• That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  
• That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
  
• The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.

If these truths are allowed to be openly denied, then the forum is not an "Apostolic" forum.

I don't think most of the folks posting on AFF deny those tenets of faith. I believe in them strongly. But it is a mistake to confuse hearty, honest debate about the issues (granted, we do seem to recycle them over and over again) with denying them.
I self-identify with all of your points, but take issue with extra-biblical requirements laid upon the people of God, starting with external standards mandated by church by-laws or the pastor, with traditional views of our security in God, with the way apostolics have defined "church", and what it means to "have church, with the local pastor being the sole authority in the local church with no accountability and making tithing the New Testament litmus test for a saint "being faithful" to the local church.
You must agree that these are doctrines commonly practiced by organizational apostolics.
What AFF has done is leveled the playing field, so to speak. And I say, It's about time. God is doing a NEW thing in the Church today. If apostolic organizations and standard bearers don't change their wineskins they'll be split wide open.
I think AFF is a PERFECT name for this forum, and the more hits we get from org members the better.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

It's a forum. I'm not sure a forum can be apostolic.

However, there are thousands of members here - - the majority believe the apostolic message.

What is apostolic to you?

Whoa !!!! Finally the million dollar question has been asked.

Better start another thread for that one darlin`.

[UnTraditional]

I love how people can kick against those who hold to the Apostles Doctrine, hold to grace, and then claim that they alone are the only true Apostolic, even when that is only what they insinuate. I have a specific term for such people...

Badly-needing-of-prayer-and-grace-believers

[MrMasterMind]

If AMF adds "standards/apostolic identity" to the plan of salvation are they Apostolic?

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Sabby

I don't think most of the folks posting on AFF deny those tenets of faith. I believe in them strongly. But it is a mistake to confuse hearty, honest debate about the issues (granted, we do seem to recycle them over and over again) with denying them.
I self-identify with all of your points, but take issue with extra-biblical requirements laid upon the people of God, starting with external standards mandated by church by-laws or the pastor, with traditional views of our security in God, with the way apostolics have defined "church", and what it means to "have church, with the local pastor being the sole authority in the local church with no accountability and making tithing the New Testament litmus test for a saint "being faithful" to the local church.
You must agree that these are doctrines commonly practiced by organizational apostolics.
What AFF has done is leveled the playing field, so to speak. And I say, It's about time. God is doing a NEW thing in the Church today. If apostolic organizations and standard bearers don't change their wineskins they'll be split wide open.
I think AFF is a PERFECT name for this forum, and the more hits we get from org members the better.

Well said, Sabby.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

If AMF adds "standards/apostolic identity" to the plan of salvation are they Apostolic?