Noah and the Ark

[SlowFade]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Technically and theologically we are in agreement. However, could a case be made that just as Jesus Christ (the "God-man") emptied Himself and became subject to the "laws of science" (laws of nature really, science merely observes what nature is doing) that God also "empties" Himself at times (perhaps most of the time?) and allows "nature to take it's course?"

Another outlandish "case" can be made yes. The Bible can't be believed. Why perpetuate this silliness? lol

[SlowFade]

Originally Posted by pelathais

When looking at our lives and at nature itself I just don't see miracles and God's intervention all the time.

However, when I take a step back and look at "all the time" - the whole thing appears miraculous and I see the handiwork of God.

I see beauty in nature's order. No need for an invisible friend to find beauty. A beautiful sunset is the result of physics and natural causes... not a divine hand.

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here is an excellent example of the fruit of evolutionary thinking. If you can't believe what the Bible says how can you believe it's message? I firmly believe in what the Bible says. I believe that one day so call "science" will be shown to be false and God's Word true to it's natural reading.

Just curious as to how this will be accomplished. Just curious as to your thoughts on this.

[SlowFade]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I think my terminology for my Invisible Friend, would be more like my Responsible Friend.

We link responsibility to every invented "Thing" we possess. Nothing we use lacks this responsibility.

To deem Creation without a responsible "Person" would require more faith than to deem it with one.

The universe is the result of happenstance. The right conditions developed over time and our universe was the result of a "big bang" not a "responsible person". One day it will all fizzle out and perhaps contract and explode again. The right conditions for life as we know it to develop may not exist in the next 30 billion big bangs.

I will also pose a question regarding your idea of no God; Is it possible for you to live alone and survive, or do we need another to fulfill the future (creation) of men?

We are alone in the universe and suriving so far. At least until a religious nut blows us up to fulfill some sort of obscure prophecy believed by their religion.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by SlowFade

The universe is the result of happenstance. The right conditions developed over time and our universe was the result of a "big bang" not a "responsible person". One day it will all fizzle out and perhaps contract and explode again. The right conditions for life as we know it to develop may not exist in the next 30 billion big bangs.



We are alone in the universe and suriving so far.

Timmy? Hello, Timmy? Paging Timmy from Texas. You have competition!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Timmy? Hello, Timmy? Paging Timmy from Texas. You have competition!

Yeah. What happened to your "pray for me" outlook from just about a year ago, SlowFade?

[SlowFade]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Yeah. What happened to your "pray for me" outlook from just about a year ago, SlowFade?

I grew up and accepted the cold hard facts. It takes more integrety to be honest about this than to hide behind religious cliches and charades.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Yeah. What happened to your "pray for me" outlook from just about a year ago, SlowFade?

Slowfade slowly faded.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by SlowFade

I grew up and accepted the cold hard facts. It takes more integrety to be honest about this than to hide behind religious cliches and charades.

SlowFade, I respect your position and understand how you've arrived where you are. I can't deny that I've been close. So you're understood, respected, and accepted by me.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by notofworks

Timmy? Hello, Timmy? Paging Timmy from Texas. You have competition!

I'm preparing my concession speech.