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Old 01-28-2010, 09:52 PM
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Old 01-28-2010, 10:25 PM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

This is from page 7 of the February 2010 issue of the Pentecostal Herald

An Apostolic Vision

The Superintendent Speaks (ex cathedra)

“And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers ...praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved” (Acts 2:42-47)

It is the will of God for the church to fulfill a threefold Apostolic vision.

First, we must maintain our Apostolic identity. We exist as a movement because we proclaim the beautiful, scriptural truths of the oneness of God in Jesus Christ, the new birth experience of Acts 2:38, the lifestyle of inward and outward holiness, heartfelt worship, and miracles and gifts of the Spirit. We must always treasure and champion this message. There is plenty of room for growth in grace and knowledge, but there is no room for compromise or abandonment of these fundamentals.

Second, we must have Apostolic unity. We must unite in fellowship, in prayer, and in the common cause of winning the lost. While we have the right to different opinions in matters of personal preferences and organizational decisions, all of us have the responsibility to reach out to one another with mutual support, prayer, forgiveness, and love. All of us need to be involved in the work of the kingdom of God beyond our local church.

Third, we must have Apostolic revival. When we continue steadfastly in Apostolic identity and unity, then we can expect miracles of healing, deliverance, and salvation. Our heartbeat must be souls. We need a continual renewal of the saints and a continual harvest of the lost. We must seize the opportunity to grow our existing churches, to plant new churches and daughter works, to evangelize the diverse population of North America --including Hispanics, African Americans, Asian Americans, and Native Americans --and to reach beyond our borders to evangelize the world.

In this regard, I appreciate the leadership of Kenneth Haney, our general superintendent for the pas eight years. He has worked hard to inspire and motivate us in these areas.

In order to fulfill this Apostolic vision, we need the active involvement of men and women who are called of God. Each minister must work to fulfill the vision and to raise up lay leaders as well as new ministers who have a call, burden, and anointing.

In addition, there are a number of qualified and proven ministers among us who have not yet been ordained. There is a special anointing that comes with ordination, as the church and Holy Ghost jointly confirm the call of God with the laying on of hands of the elders. It is not a formality but a breakthrough into a new spiritual dimension.

Finally, we must mobilize the whole church. There is a ministry, or place of active service, for every child of God. God has given the fivefold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers to train and equip the believers, so that all God’s people can do works of service, so that the body of Christ is built up and grows into maturity. (Ephesians 4:11-13)

Together, let us make history in these last days as we fulfill the Apostolic vision!
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Old 01-28-2010, 11:49 PM
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I must say, I'm fairly tolerant and long suffering with people. I'm even amused by ignorance sometimes. But instead of offering something "factual"......maybe even "some" scripture to argue your points, feelings, doctrine or belief or "lack" thereof, you offer "CHILDISH, IMMATURE" remarks.

I have one question for YOU, friend. I dont ask many....I spend my time answering others.
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Do YOU believe that repentance, baptism IN JESUS NAME, and the INFILLING of THE HOLY GHOST by EVIDENCE of "speaking in other tongues as THE SPIRIT gives utterance" is THE ONLY way to heaven???????
I'd have to say that I am stunned by your post, Will. Get over yourself. I posted that question just as I was walking out the door and my wife had reminded me about the stir fry, so I was kind of excited about that.

In response to your question, I believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to heaven. See John 14:6. This is what the Bible clearly teaches.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:04 AM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

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This is from page 7 of the February 2010 issue of the Pentecostal Herald

An Apostolic Vision

The Superintendent Speaks (ex cathedra)

“And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers ...praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved” (Acts 2:42-47)

It is the will of God for the church to fulfill a threefold Apostolic vision.

First, we must maintain our Apostolic identity. We exist as a movement because we proclaim the beautiful, scriptural truths of the oneness of God in Jesus Christ, the new birth experience of Acts 2:38, the lifestyle of inward and outward holiness, heartfelt worship, and miracles and gifts of the Spirit. We must always treasure and champion this message. There is plenty of room for growth in grace and knowledge, but there is no room for compromise or abandonment of these fundamentals.

Second, we must have Apostolic unity. We must unite in fellowship, in prayer, and in the common cause of winning the lost. While we have the right to different opinions in matters of personal preferences and organizational decisions, all of us have the responsibility to reach out to one another with mutual support, prayer, forgiveness, and love. All of us need to be involved in the work of the kingdom of God beyond our local church.

Third, we must have Apostolic revival. When we continue steadfastly in Apostolic identity and unity, then we can expect miracles of healing, deliverance, and salvation. Our heartbeat must be souls. We need a continual renewal of the saints and a continual harvest of the lost. We must seize the opportunity to grow our existing churches, to plant new churches and daughter works, to evangelize the diverse population of North America --including Hispanics, African Americans, Asian Americans, and Native Americans --and to reach beyond our borders to evangelize the world.

In this regard, I appreciate the leadership of Kenneth Haney, our general superintendent for the pas eight years. He has worked hard to inspire and motivate us in these areas.

In order to fulfill this Apostolic vision, we need the active involvement of men and women who are called of God. Each minister must work to fulfill the vision and to raise up lay leaders as well as new ministers who have a call, burden, and anointing.

In addition, there are a number of qualified and proven ministers among us who have not yet been ordained. There is a special anointing that comes with ordination, as the church and Holy Ghost jointly confirm the call of God with the laying on of hands of the elders. It is not a formality but a breakthrough into a new spiritual dimension.

Finally, we must mobilize the whole church. There is a ministry, or place of active service, for every child of God. God has given the fivefold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers to train and equip the believers, so that all God’s people can do works of service, so that the body of Christ is built up and grows into maturity. (Ephesians 4:11-13)

Together, let us make history in these last days as we fulfill the Apostolic vision!
"We exist as a movement because we proclaim the beautiful, scriptural truths of the oneness of God in Jesus Christ, the new birth experience of Acts 2:38, the lifestyle of inward and outward holiness, heartfelt worship, and miracles and gifts of the Spirit."

Hmmmm! This sounds like a new UPCI mission statement!

I can agree with the statement, but we all know that "outward holiness" refers to the 1950's lifestyle.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:17 AM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

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This is from page 7 of the February 2010 issue of the Pentecostal Herald

An Apostolic Vision

The Superintendent Speaks (ex cathedra)

“And they continued steadfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers ...praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved” (Acts 2:42-47)

It is the will of God for the church to fulfill a threefold Apostolic vision.

First, we must maintain our Apostolic identity. We exist as a movement because we proclaim the beautiful, scriptural truths of the oneness of God in Jesus Christ, the new birth experience of Acts 2:38, the lifestyle of inward and outward holiness, heartfelt worship, and miracles and gifts of the Spirit. We must always treasure and champion this message. There is plenty of room for growth in grace and knowledge, but there is no room for compromise or abandonment of these fundamentals.

Second, we must have Apostolic unity. We must unite in fellowship, in prayer, and in the common cause of winning the lost. While we have the right to different opinions in matters of personal preferences and organizational decisions, all of us have the responsibility to reach out to one another with mutual support, prayer, forgiveness, and love. All of us need to be involved in the work of the kingdom of God beyond our local church.

Third, we must have Apostolic revival. When we continue steadfastly in Apostolic identity and unity, then we can expect miracles of healing, deliverance, and salvation. Our heartbeat must be souls. We need a continual renewal of the saints and a continual harvest of the lost. We must seize the opportunity to grow our existing churches, to plant new churches and daughter works, to evangelize the diverse population of North America --including Hispanics, African Americans, Asian Americans, and Native Americans --and to reach beyond our borders to evangelize the world.

In this regard, I appreciate the leadership of Kenneth Haney, our general superintendent for the pas eight years. He has worked hard to inspire and motivate us in these areas.

In order to fulfill this Apostolic vision, we need the active involvement of men and women who are called of God. Each minister must work to fulfill the vision and to raise up lay leaders as well as new ministers who have a call, burden, and anointing.

In addition, there are a number of qualified and proven ministers among us who have not yet been ordained. There is a special anointing that comes with ordination, as the church and Holy Ghost jointly confirm the call of God with the laying on of hands of the elders. It is not a formality but a breakthrough into a new spiritual dimension.

Finally, we must mobilize the whole church. There is a ministry, or place of active service, for every child of God. God has given the fivefold ministry of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers to train and equip the believers, so that all God’s people can do works of service, so that the body of Christ is built up and grows into maturity. (Ephesians 4:11-13)

Together, let us make history in these last days as we fulfill the Apostolic vision!

Thanx for posting Samage.
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Old 01-29-2010, 07:20 AM
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Re: DKB Shares His Vision: Apostolic Identity,

This is why Apostolic Revival has eluded some ....????

Apostolic Identity + Apostolic Unity = Apostolic Revival

The newest formula hasn't worked in greater exposure and had its global impact because ..... ?????

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Third, we must have Apostolic revival. When we continue steadfastly in Apostolic identity and unity, then we can expect miracles of healing, deliverance, and salvation. Our heartbeat must be souls. We need a continual renewal of the saints and a continual harvest of the lost. We must seize the opportunity to grow our existing churches, to plant new churches and daughter works, to evangelize the diverse population of North America --including Hispanics, African Americans, Asian Americans, and Native Americans --and to reach beyond our borders to evangelize the world.
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This is why Apostolic Revival has eluded some ....????

Apostolic Identity + Apostolic Unity = Apostolic Revival

The newest formula hasn't worked in greater exposure and had its global impact because ..... ?????
When people type in the denominations name into Google and Yahoo they get a ton of listings about cults and spiritual abuse. I think Google and Yahoo have changed the game greatly as far as information pro and con on various issues to be available to everyone.

Google search results as of today - "united pentecostal church"

1. http://www.upci.org/

2. http://wec.upci.org/churches/locator/

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._International

4. http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatch/upc.htm (not nice)

5. http://www.mtio.com/articles/bissar75.htm (anti-UPCI doctrine)

6. http://www.rickross.com/groups/upci.html (Rick Ross Anti-Cult Site)

7. http://www.upcbartlett.org/

8. http://www.bethelupc.org/

9. http://www.factnet.org/cults/United_...tal_Church.htm (A whole page of horror testimonies)


And thats page one of Google. Good luck trying to unwind that with the average new convert who reads that with the cross links into anti-cult and spiritual abuse stories.

If I were the UPCI HQ I would drop a ton of money into search engine optimization to try to push all that down several pages and replace it with happy feeley stuff.
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Old 01-29-2010, 09:45 AM
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When people type in the denominations name into Google and Yahoo they get a ton of listings about cults and spiritual abuse. I think Google and Yahoo have changed the game greatly as far as information pro and con on various issues to be available to everyone.

Google search results as of today - "united pentecostal church"

1. http://www.upci.org/

2. http://wec.upci.org/churches/locator/

3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_..._International

4. http://www.sullivan-county.com/nf0/dispatch/upc.htm (not nice)

5. http://www.mtio.com/articles/bissar75.htm (anti-UPCI doctrine)

6. http://www.rickross.com/groups/upci.html (Rick Ross Anti-Cult Site)

7. http://www.upcbartlett.org/

8. http://www.bethelupc.org/

9. http://www.factnet.org/cults/United_...tal_Church.htm (A whole page of horror testimonies)


And thats page one of Google. Good luck trying to unwind that with the average new convert who reads that with the cross links into anti-cult and spiritual abuse stories.

If I were the UPCI HQ I would drop a ton of money into search engine optimization to try to push all that down several pages and replace it with happy feeley stuff.
But Jesus said we will be hated for his name sake. So these "colorful" website validates Jesus' words. Wear it as a badge of honor.

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Old 01-29-2010, 10:03 AM
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But Jesus said we will be hated for his name sake. So these "colorful" website validates Jesus' words. Wear it as a badge of honor.

In fact, the more you are hated, the more right you must be!
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In fact, the more you are hated, the more right you must be!
Or.....the more you are hated, the more spiritual one must be! DA is truly more Apostolic than most of us!
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