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View Poll Results: Do you affirm these beliefs?
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07-01-2008, 03:21 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Rico
I would argue that He did command we observe communion. He did say, "This do in remembrance of me."
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Can someone to to heaven that hasn't had communion?
Most aren't like the Catholics who have communion every service.
How oft though Rico?
Repentance, Baptism in Jesus Name & receiving the Holy Ghost is the bare minimum.
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07-01-2008, 03:22 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
You are correct. The washing in the water is what it means. Listen or watch it..might take 45 minutes.
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yes the washing in water is what it means. So how does that mean baptism does not mean what we've all come to believe it to be other than to immerse someone totally in water?
Likewise this washing is done by someone else. A person dips you and your body into water
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Ron
Can someone to to heaven that hasn't had communion?
Most aren't like the Catholics who have communion every service.
How oft though Rico?
Repentance, Baptism in Jesus Name & receiving the Holy Ghost is the bare minimum.
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Belief is the minimum, all those other things follow.
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07-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
i've already heard the argument. I can look at the greek too and research it. What is the point in watching someone's polemic when I can't refute it at the same time?
Like I said, if you can present the arguments here I can address them. But what I just posted I did not make up. Get some study tools, research it yourself. Don't accept my word or that video
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The reason to watch or listen is that in the message the preacher is reading from the Greek and English Lexicon by Lidell and Scott. That is why.
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07-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
I love it.....What do we do......I always heard this as 'what do we do-to be saved?' You know what? In Acts I think it is 2:19 Peter tells them what to do to be saved and then tells them to go on a be baptized and so forth.
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Again, he either contradicted himself or you are twisting scripture.
I tend to believe the book.
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07-01-2008, 03:23 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
John:316
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Acts 2:19
And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved
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Another reason why I let the Normally Incorrect Version fall by the wayside. There is a big difference in "shall" and "should."
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07-01-2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Belief is the minimum, all those other things follow.
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So Heaven will be filled with Catholics?
What about those who profess faith & sit around smoking dope?
My good buddy was doing just that when we knocked on his door & invited him out to Church.
Are all his dope smoking friends going to be in Heaven too?
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07-01-2008, 03:27 PM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Ron
Again, he either contradicted himself or you are twisting scripture.
I tend to believe the book.
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Not twisting scripture at all. Just picking out Acts 2:38 on till the end of the of the chapter and say that is talking about salvation you are negating what he already told them about salvation to get them to the point where they asked what shall we do? Or what now...then you read Acts 2:38. Go re read it Ron. You are the one pulling scripture out of its context to try and prove a point. It doesn't work your way if you read the whole chapter. Also if you tend to believe the book then read the whole thing then you will really see what is done there. You must read it with an open mind cause otherwise you only will see it through the OP glasses.
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"If we don't learn to live together we're gonna die alone"
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07-01-2008, 03:27 PM
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Baron1710
you have tied salvation to baptism, IMO, contrary to Scripture which tells us a number of times that Salvation is tied to belief.
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Salvation is tied to both, believing and baptism, as well as Spirit indwelling, repentance, living holy, enduring til the end.....
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His banner over me is LOVE....  My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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07-01-2008, 03:27 PM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Re: Apostolic Litumus Test: Do you affirm - Yes or
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Originally Posted by Ron
So Heaven will be filled with Catholics?
What about those who profess faith & sit around smoking dope?
My good buddy was doing just that when we knocked on his door & invited him out to Church.
Are all his dope smoking friends going to be in Heaven too?
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Yes. All of God's rowdy friends are comin over tonite!
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