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12-17-2007, 10:21 PM
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Its really funny. Some of you hated them when they were in the UPC and stated that they needed to get out do their own thing because they were not fellowshipping others, and now you are complaining because they are doing just that.
Can't win for loosing.
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12-17-2007, 10:21 PM
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What is unethical about what these men are doing? This is not an org from my understanding, but a fellowship. A man can continue to hold license with the UPC, and hold a fellowship card with this group too. I could be wrong, but that is the last word I had.
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Do you think Crawford Coon is teaching on the Articles of Faith of the UPC? 
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12-17-2007, 10:23 PM
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What is unethical about what these men are doing? This is not an org from my understanding, but a fellowship. A man can continue to hold license with the UPC, and hold a fellowship card with this group too. I could be wrong, but that is the last word I had.
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Well, yes...that is the last thing I had heard too. But, it certainly starting to look differently. They have their committees already there waiting...it just smells fishy to me.
This is just my humble opinion, I just don't think it is right the way this is playing out. Sorry, just my take!
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12-17-2007, 10:24 PM
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Do you think Carlton Coon is teaching on the Articles of Faith of the UPC? |
There are quite a few UPC and ALJC licensed ministers that are part of the AWCF, and the AWCF has AoF. The UPC AoF give room for a minister to be a part of other fellowships, and still hold their (UPC) license. They just cannot be "licensed" with another group.
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12-17-2007, 10:26 PM
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Setting direction, what!!? Sounds like these guys have it all figured out already. This 'Tulsa Time Meetin' obviously will not be to set direction, but to say, "Hey, here's where we're going...come go with us!" This really makes me sick!
I am very disappointed in some of the men whose names I see listed. Men whom I have looked up for my entire life. What happen to ethics... Well, I'd better stop.........
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Ahhmmm...According to their schedule, KG will be speaking on the subject of Ministerial Ethics and Character right after CC unveils the AOF. Don't worry, they seem to have it all under control!
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12-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
There are quite a few UPC and ALJC licensed ministers that are part of the AWCF, and the AWCF has AoF. The UPC AoF give room for a minister to be a part of other fellowships, and still hold their (UPC) license. They just cannot be "licensed" with another group.
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What is the difference between an org and a fellowship if they both have similar structures which include Articles of Faith and licensing abilities?
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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12-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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The other thing to consider is IF these men have turned in their license, and ARE forming another org that will hold the standards that they all want, why is it considered unethical? Is it unethical if I leave one job, and go to work for a competing company if I feel it is in my best interest to do so??
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12-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stmatthew
What is unethical about what these men are doing? This is not an org from my understanding, but a fellowship. A man can continue to hold license with the UPC, and hold a fellowship card with this group too. I could be wrong, but that is the last word I had.
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I know for a fact that some of the men on the commitees have either turned in their card or not paid their budget fee and will not return calls made to them by their District Supt. You think they've made other plans?
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12-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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Was T. L. Craft demoted? He was one of the "7" Executive Coincil Members on the Bible Quizzing site. Now he's moved "down" to the General Council.
So we have 6 Executives and 50 Generals. They messed up the Kabbalistic theme! The chakras won't be good for this. They must redistribute the tom-toms for a more favorable alignment.
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12-17-2007, 10:28 PM
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Do you think Crawford Coon is teaching on the Articles of Faith of the UPC? |
There is a difference in stating the "common ground" or basis for fellowship and issuing licenses or credentials. I believe this is one of the keys to whether or not this will be a "rival organization" or a fellowship.
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