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Old 11-27-2007, 01:12 PM
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I wasn't born at the time.
Well, I guess in Nathan and my worlds then you don't even count!
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:16 PM
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I understand, but his actions never expressed any remorse for causing a fairly large congregation to fragment and than starting another church in that city with saints that where just as dilusional. Sorry, but this affected people that where the closest to me when I came into this movement and unfortunately I read official documentation way back then concerning the situation.
HangingOut,

I understand the pain of old wounds but certainly a man, even one who made gross error, deserves friends. I don't believe Nathan is looking to embrace the error, only the man.

The moral of the story is that even great men are susceptible to error and to failing and falling. We should, therefore, mind our relationship and cleave tenaciously to the grace that has been given us!
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:26 PM
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HangingOut,

I understand the pain of old wounds but certainly a man, even one who made gross error, deserves friends. I don't believe Nathan is looking to embrace the error, only the man.

The moral of the story is that even great men are susceptible to error and to failing and falling. We should, therefore, mind our relationship and cleave tenaciously to the grace that has been given us!

AMEN!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:29 PM
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HangingOut,

I understand the pain of old wounds but certainly a man, even one who made gross error, deserves friends. I don't believe Nathan is looking to embrace the error, only the man.

The moral of the story is that even great men are susceptible to error and to failing and falling. We should, therefore, mind our relationship and cleave tenaciously to the grace that has been given us!
Exactly, I would like to tell Will Cohron just what he meant to my dad in tough times in the 1970's.

I do know that the sermon I am hearing as I am typing this post.

If Will Cohron would head his own words he could find restoration.

I pray for him...
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:32 PM
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I understand, but his actions never expressed any remorse for causing a fairly large congregation to fragment and than starting another church in that city with saints that where just as dilusional. Sorry, but this affected people that where the closest to me when I came into this movement and unfortunately I read official documentation way back then concerning the situation.
I had the same experience with a great preacher in the UPC as well. I just pray for them to find their way.

I can't believe how many men of over the years have gone the same road.

I pray for them all....

My dad would weep the first minute of his breath if he were raised from the dead today.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:49 PM
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HangingOut,

I understand the pain of old wounds but certainly a man, even one who made gross error, deserves friends. I don't believe Nathan is looking to embrace the error, only the man.

The moral of the story is that even great men are susceptible to error and to failing and falling. We should, therefore, mind our relationship and cleave tenaciously to the grace that has been given us!
Bro. Jones, this is so true!

One of my greatest influences growing up wound up leaving the truth and embracing a immoral lifestyle. He continues in that to this day, completely delusional about what the state of his soul is.

Many that have known him in times past are completely appalled by him, and want nothing to do with him. While I could probably not spend a lot of time with him on regular basis, I cannot find it in my heart to turn my back on him.

Loving him and being thankful for the positive influence that he had on my life at a crucial age, is not the same thing as loving or accepting his lifestyle. He will always be someone my heart is happy to see.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:56 PM
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Sorry for sounding bitter. This was just different in that as far as I know today, the man never made things right with anyone. It is really his burden to do so.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:59 PM
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Sorry for sounding bitter. This was just different in that as far as I know today, the man never made things right with anyone. It is really his burden to do so.
I do believe we need to remember folks in years gone by. Even if they are not ministers.

I have been praying and looking on the internet for folks.

Once I know they are still alive.

I have started to pray for these folks....

I know Bro Cohron needs to take action.

I just pray all of his friends from years past did not just up and run.

I pray anyone of them would have tried to talk with him...

Nathan
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:33 PM
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I do believe we need to remember folks in years gone by. Even if they are not ministers.

I have been praying and looking on the internet for folks.

Once I know they are still alive.

I have started to pray for these folks....

I know Bro Cohron needs to take action.

I just pray all of his friends from years past did not just up and run.

I pray anyone of them would have tried to talk with him...

Nathan
During the time that Will Cohron had his problems; it was a time when people were more or less ostrasized, and alienated from anyone they knew or loved. People were afraid to be connected in any way. It was this way with my situation.

There are times also that God tells people that the person they want to confront is not receptive to hearing this from anyone. That is the case with some. At that point all you can do is pray.

The truth is...people don't really mean to be unkind but they are caught up in their own world and don't want to be 'uncomfortable'. Fair weather friends are easy to find...it is the bad weather friends that are true friends and will stick by you to the end. I have some of these and I am thankful.

Blessigns, Rhoni
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:36 PM
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During the time that Will Cohron had his problems; it was a time when people were more or less ostrasized, and alienated from anyone they knew or loved. People were afraid to be connected in any way. It was this way with my situation.

There are times also that God tells people that the person they want to confront is not receptive to hearing this from anyone. That is the case with some. At that point all you can do is pray.

The truth is...people don't really mean to be unkind but they are caught up in their own world and don't want to be 'uncomfortable'. Fair weather friends are easy to find...it is the bad weather friends that are true friends and will stick by you to the end. I have some of these and I am thankful.

Blessigns, Rhoni
I agree. Your experience has been such a help to many...

God Bless,

Nathan
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