Nathan Morton Announces he's Leaving UPC

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

And isn't it funny that they hate the Catholic church so much?

we claim to be anti-Catholic but teach the same thing found in the notes of the Douay (Roman Catholic) Bible at John 3:5 that "born of water" means "water baptism."

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by NorCal

I would like to add that Speaking ill of Gods anointed, wither they be UPC, ALJC, WPF, COOLJC etc. is un-biblical and you are endangering yourself to a spirit of rebellion. Remember Cora. If they are not following Gods will, then GOD will rebuke them. But "touch not my anointed".

I assume that you are referring to Psalms 105:15 - "Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm". I suppose the context of Scripture must mean something and this does not apply at all to a 'minister'.

[Cindy]

Although the Holy Ghost leads us into all truth.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

I assume that you are referring to Psalms 105:15 - "Touch not mine anointed and do my prophets no harm". I suppose the context of Scripture must mean something and this does not apply at all to a 'minister'.

Dave, what's going on my friend?

Context means nothing until the pastor says it does.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Although the Holy Ghost leads us into all truth.

He sure has led us into differing denominations and organizations and doctrines.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Sam

we claim to be anti-Catholic but teach the same thing found in the notes of the Douay (Roman Catholic) Bible at John 3:5 that "born of water" means "water baptism."

Many denominations share things in common.

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Sam

we claim to be anti-Catholic but teach the same thing found in the notes of the Douay (Roman Catholic) Bible at John 3:5 that "born of water" means "water baptism."

If that were the only parallel I guess it wouldn't be too bad but this infallible pastor nonsense where you have hundreds of little popes and they are all right even when they contradict one another, because they are ruling their own little kingdom.

[NorCal]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

If that were the only parallel I guess it wouldn't be too bad but this infallible pastor nonsense where you have hundreds of little popes and they are all right even when they contradict one another, because they are ruling their own little kingdom.

I never said any pastor is infallible. In fact I stated that if a pastor leads his flock astray, then it is the LORDs right to rebuke him and none else.

And as I was neither Defending nor Accusing Pastor Morton, I can see how your spirit is (not your spirit personally, but those who slander and point fingers).

I personally have family on BOTH sides of the issue. From VERY Conservative to Very Liberal, but it comes down to following YOUR pastor at the church YOU attend, and YOU should not worry about anyone else but YOURSELF.

How can you remove the splinter from your bothers eye, when you have a beam sticking out yours?

This forums should be used to discuss biblical scripture and not bash any organization, person, or belief. As what I stated, defended BOTH sides of the isle on their beliefs, however you took me to be a puppet of one side - which I am not.

It is sad to see the "Apostolics" turn on themselves. It has become even greater with the advent of "Apostolic Forums". I have been around the Apostolic Forums in one way or another since 1992. And the seething has only gotten worse.

Let us embrace the Apostolic Plan of salvation and follow Christ.

"Follow me, as I follow Christ". "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling".

God Bless

PS. Just to clearify,
1. Your pastor does not save you, however, rebellion against your pastor can/will send you to hell. So for myself, as long as I attend a church, I will follow that pastors teaching (Be it, UPCI, WPF, etc). Wither it be about, sleeve length, TV, Internet, Movies, Sports, or anything else.
2. A hedge is not placed to keep people in, but to keep Satan out.
3. “Speak ill of no man, but speak all the good you know of everybody” - Ben Franklin.
4. Follow the rule of convictions and you will be safe. Bible > Pastor > Personal. This is the way I was taught and explained by my father, who learned it from his grandmother, who was around in the early 1900's.

@ReformedDave - David actually said that about Saul. He would not kill Saul, because he was still the Anointed of God, even though he had fallen astray.

[berkeley]

it comes down to following YOUR pastor at the church YOU attend

What if the pastor tells you that you can't use facebook, must be clean shaven, must wear sleaves at x-length, etc.. etc. How is this pastor following Jesus?

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by NorCal

I never said any pastor is infallible. In fact I stated that if a pastor leads his flock astray, then it is the LORDs right to rebuke him and none else.

And as I was neither Defending nor Accusing Pastor Morton, I can see how your spirit is (not your spirit personally, but those who slander and point fingers).

I personally have family on BOTH sides of the issue. From VERY Conservative to Very Liberal, but it comes down to following YOUR pastor at the church YOU attend, and YOU should not worry about anyone else but YOURSELF.

How can you remove the splinter from your bothers eye, when you have a beam sticking out yours?

This forums should be used to discuss biblical scripture and not bash any organization, person, or belief. As what I stated, defended BOTH sides of the isle on their beliefs, however you took me to be a puppet of one side - which I am not.

It is sad to see the "Apostolics" turn on themselves. It has become even greater with the advent of "Apostolic Forums". I have been around the Apostolic Forums in one way or another since 1992. And the seething has only gotten worse.

Let us embrace the Apostolic Plan of salvation and follow Christ.

"Follow me, as I follow Christ". "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling".

God Bless

PS. Just to clearify,
1. Your pastor does not save you, however, rebellion against your pastor can/will send you to hell. So for myself, as long as I attend a church, I will follow that pastors teaching (Be it, UPCI, WPF, etc). Wither it be about, sleeve length, TV, Internet, Movies, Sports, or anything else.
2. A hedge is not placed to keep people in, but to keep Satan out.
3. “Speak ill of no man, but speak all the good you know of everybody” - Ben Franklin.
4. Follow the rule of convictions and you will be safe. Bible > Pastor > Personal. This is the way I was taught and explained by my father, who learned it from his grandmother, who was around in the early 1900's.

@ReformedDave - David actually said that about Saul. He would not kill Saul, because he was still the Anointed of God, even though he had fallen astray.

The last bold statement is proof you think your pastor is your pope.